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Josh Ireland

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Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

And one of the most important ones for this story is a meeting in Spain between Itingon...

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

and a family called the Mecadas.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

So Itingon is out there to help the Republic during the Spanish Civil War, which Stalin is using as a sort of proving ground for some of the methods of repression that will be employed later on.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

Stalin's not a man who lets a sort of war go to waste.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

And the Mercados are this fascinating family.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

They're bourgeois, semi-aristocratic from Barcelona.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

And their family business falls apart.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

So they're sort of thrown into poverty.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

She begins teaching and very quickly gets, I guess we would call radicalized.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

She's always been this sort of reckless person.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

thrill-seeking personality.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

And very quickly, she becomes both a communist and a heroin addict.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

So the marriage doesn't last very long.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

She leaves, takes with her the children who were brought up to sort of imbibe her philosophy.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

And then when the civil war comes around, her eldest son, Ramon, who's this tall, handsome, charismatic figure,

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

starts fighting, he's part of a communist brigade.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

And we can't precisely locate the moment when the NKVD recruited him, but there's this extraordinary moment where his younger brother's watching, and it's a cold, snowy day, somewhere in the hills of Russia, and he sees his mother and his brother talking.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

And every time anyone comes close to them, they edge away, edge away as if they've got this incredible secret.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

And then he said, from that moment on, I understood my, my brother was working for, they called them the Soviet Accords.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

And so that's the, that's when Ramon unwilling, unwittingly becomes the sort of, he gets embroiled in this bigger thing.