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Josh Ireland

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

You are the person that will help.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

I think they're all terrified, but Aiting knows that the first person against the wall is going to be him.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

And there is a close friendship between the two men, which will persist for decades afterwards.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

So there is a genuine attachment, a genuine sentimental connection between them, which may or may not be to do with the fact that, you know, he's effectively his stepdad or might not be.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

It's just complicated.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

And so they come up with a plan.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

And the first, there are a couple of terrible plans.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

I think they initially think about bombing the compound.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

they then they try and think about poison but then they realize that no one knows how to make poison and there's always like with all these things there's always like a note of grand farce of like they're only one step away from a kind of ealing style comedy and then the what the plan that eventually settle on has sort of two attractive features as far as they're concerned

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

What the idea is is that Ramon will find a way of getting himself alone in Trotsky's study and then will kill him not with a pistol but with either a knife or the weapon that they decide to choose which is an ice axe.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

And the appeal of the ice axe is that it's

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

It's not a subtle weapon.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

It's not a surgical weapon that if anyone is killed with an ice axe, you know, it will create carnage on their head and an incredibly visceral symbol of the price you pay for standing up for Stalin.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

And I think there had actually been an NKVD assassination a year or two before using ice picks.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

There is some sort of precedent for it.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

And also, a weird thing you learn about Mexico, quite a lot of mountains, quite a lot of mountaineering.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

A lot of ice axes.

Dan Snow's History Hit
The Bloody Assassination of Trotsky

Quite easy to get hold of an ice axe.