Josh Jenkins

But in front of 92,000 and millions around the country, JJ, the Bombers were incredibly disappointing.

Hard to find a positive.

So is this personnel?

We've had this discussion before around this team.

Even after they won against Melbourne, the discussion was about how does this game style and how does the personnel fit the coaching and vice versa.

So when you look and when you give all those numbers, and they are bleak reading, is it a personnel situation at Essendon?

We have got some injuries, as they know.

Is it a Brad Scott mindset about how the way they play?

Is it a combination of both?

Because we'll get to Fremantle later in the show, but we get better personnel and your game style can alter a little bit.

How do you see with Essendon?

This is what happens also when you have so many injuries last year is you can't gain an identity as a football club about the way you want to play your best footy.

Possibly, but it also leads to the confusion where you're not sure, okay?

So when I asked you about his personnel or coaching or whatever it might be, there's still that little bit of murky or blurred lines about, hey, is this the way they play their footy?

Is this how Brad Scott wants the team to play?

Or is it an overlap of last year where he had to...

really just put whoever he could put out there with so many debutants just to be able to field a particular senior team each and every week.

So I'm not saying that it's one totally the other way, but there is the occasional overlap where we can't get a really good vision of what Essendon are actually trying to do.

The major concern for me yesterday, JJ, and we touched on this a lot with young teams,

when you're devoid of senior experience and leadership, and Richmond's a great conversation at the moment around it, it hurts you.