Josh (Joshua)

And Ben and I go, cool, of course.

that's normal and all of a sudden we can't breathe yeah totally and we're hallucinating but an amazing staff burt's the best and that's but and yet it was funny because i asked him i was like knowing that he's loaded and and has done incredibly well i'm like what was that moment like whether it was a couple years ago where your financial planner your accountant calls you and goes like if you stop now and you don't live like a total idiot yeah but you live a beautiful lovely life

You're okay.

Like you don't have to keep working.

Like what's that feel like?

And what my fear was and what he sort of cemented was not good.

Yeah.

Or at least it wasn't that finish line that we all dream of and not to make light of it because people work incredibly hard to have a very small cushion.

So I know there's different scenarios, but he just was like, yeah, like it didn't stop me from that deep drive to want to keep going.

Sure.

I'm in a funky, if we're capital T truthing ourselves right now, I'm in a funky part of that journey.

And I think it's on me.

Yeah.

Because my teacher's always like, you just need to let it go.

You just need to show up for an audition and do the best work you can.

Totally.

Philip Seymour Hoffman has a great quote where he's like, as an actor, if you get an audition, it's someone paying for the office space for you to go do your craft.

Yeah, sure.

And you have a performance.

Michael Keaton said this too, you know, a big turning point for him was he stopped believing like this is a job that I need to get and I need to do what they're asking for so that I get the job they're offering.