Josh Kale

So this is how this works.

relates to the other puzzle pieces as well.

If we want to move, not bits, but atoms, over the last 20 years, the last two decades, human innovation has all happened in the world of bits.

Like we haven't really innovated by contrast in the world of atoms very much.

Like all of the innovation happened behind screens.

Like if you wanted to go find the future over the last 20 years, you had to go into your phone.

You had to go look at your computer.

Okay.

Maybe that's because labor hasn't really been all that innovative.

And the way that energy feeds into labor, let's talk about that next.

Let's talk about labor.

Because there are a few companies out there who are in the same way that the AI labs, Anthropic, OpenAI, Google, XAI, are commoditizing intelligence.

There's a few companies out there who are commoditizing labor in the exact same way.

Can you talk about that?

Especially when you combine intelligence and labor, like blue collar and white collar.

Do you mean like all of the human jobs out there?

Not to get dystopian, I don't really think I want to care to like say that like all humans are just going to become unnecessary.

That's a different podcast episode.

What this episode is about is like we are literally building robots this year.

There are going to be robots that walk among us this year.