Josh Laura

But he's also very comfortable in this vision of new masculinity where he's like, I'm sad.

I have a therapist.

I'm vulnerable.

I get – I wanted to be famous really bad and I –

was a loser for a long time and now I'm not.

And I think that's interesting to me.

Whereas a lot of the internet sort of grapples with like Josh O'Connor, who I do love, but Josh O'Connor, they're like, he's just so sad.

He's just so sad.

And I said in the piece, I said, I wonder how these terms sort of protect these men from the actual fallout of their actions.

He's not allowed to be baby girl.

Um...

I would say, okay, no, realistically, okay, I would say I think that there is a question of

Society has changed so much in the last 20 years that when you bring up these issues of men not attending college and not being employed at the same rates as women and not, you know, succeeding and dying more deaths of despair.

And we don't even have to get into like the incel and look smacks or culture, right?

This like giant internet black hole that's pulling a lot of young men in and radicalizing them, the radicalization of young men.

becoming very very right wing um i think that when you pull out these stats and when you look at the numbers the new yorker did a very powerful rebuttal to a lot of scott galloway's research a couple of months ago where the writer um i've unfortunately forgot her name but the writer was like all of these things are also true for women cosmo did an article in july of last year where they were like women are also lonely there's also a loneliness crisis because we

Yeah, and you're literally like I'm the horse being led to water.

This is what I do on TikTok too.

I try to get people to like connect the dots themselves.

But like to make it manifest, I will say it very plainly.