Josh Mankiewicz

that it can sort of rob us of one of the things that we need for Dateline, which is sort of the suspense. So in this case, you have a certain base of knowledge out there among the public. The thing that really I thought helped us in this is that, first of all, we covered the trial and we're airing pretty close after the trial ended. It was just a couple of weeks ago.

And we have one more advantage, which is sort of what you thought You, the viewer, what you thought when this happened turns out to be not really the story that was there. You know, a lot of people saw that video of Bob Lee stumbling around downtown San Francisco and then sort of didn't really connect with anything after that because, you know, just the general flow of news.

And we have one more advantage, which is sort of what you thought You, the viewer, what you thought when this happened turns out to be not really the story that was there. You know, a lot of people saw that video of Bob Lee stumbling around downtown San Francisco and then sort of didn't really connect with anything after that because, you know, just the general flow of news.

They remember, oh, yeah, that guy got stabbed in San Francisco where the crime is so terrible. That's sort of what what people thought. And then it turns out, of course, it really wasn't that at all.

They remember, oh, yeah, that guy got stabbed in San Francisco where the crime is so terrible. That's sort of what what people thought. And then it turns out, of course, it really wasn't that at all.

I think a lot of people jumped to the conclusion that this had to do with the crime problem on the streets of downtown San Francisco. And it didn't.

I think a lot of people jumped to the conclusion that this had to do with the crime problem on the streets of downtown San Francisco. And it didn't.

The police certainly knew immediately that this wasn't a robbery, but they sort of the police did an interesting thing, which is they kind of did not say anything to refute that part of the story saying, we don't really know what this is, but we're pretty sure what it's not. They didn't do that because what they were fine with was the idea of that story being

The police certainly knew immediately that this wasn't a robbery, but they sort of the police did an interesting thing, which is they kind of did not say anything to refute that part of the story saying, we don't really know what this is, but we're pretty sure what it's not. They didn't do that because what they were fine with was the idea of that story being

The robbery stories just sort of sitting out there because they thought, well, whoever is responsible and we don't know who that is at this point, they're going to think we're looking for, you know, downtown stick up men or something. And we aren't.

The robbery stories just sort of sitting out there because they thought, well, whoever is responsible and we don't know who that is at this point, they're going to think we're looking for, you know, downtown stick up men or something. And we aren't.

Right. Yeah. Right. That's what you want if you're doing an investigation.

Right. Yeah. Right. That's what you want if you're doing an investigation.

Yeah. I mean, then the police went out. They got all of this stuff. That's one of the first things that happens in an investigation. They were able to not just see where Bob was walking around before he collapsed and before the police and paramedics found him after his 911 call. But they sort of went back in time on the video, and they saw that white car.

Yeah. I mean, then the police went out. They got all of this stuff. That's one of the first things that happens in an investigation. They were able to not just see where Bob was walking around before he collapsed and before the police and paramedics found him after his 911 call. But they sort of went back in time on the video, and they saw that white car.

And then they follow that white car, and it leads back to the Millennium Tower. And the video gets progressively better of the car, like, as they sort of go back in time. Like, the first video at the crime scene is not so good. But then they see it a couple of blocks away heading toward the crime scene, you know, sort of going back in time. They're like, okay, that's a little better.

And then they follow that white car, and it leads back to the Millennium Tower. And the video gets progressively better of the car, like, as they sort of go back in time. Like, the first video at the crime scene is not so good. But then they see it a couple of blocks away heading toward the crime scene, you know, sort of going back in time. They're like, okay, that's a little better.

They go back a little farther. They go to the Millennium Tower, and that's pay dirt. And you have this kind of Rashomon thing where they're walking out of the Millennium Tower, he and Nima. So the question is, what do you see when you see that video? Is that one guy who knows he's about to commit a murder and the other guy who thinks the danger, whatever it was, has passed? We're fine.

They go back a little farther. They go to the Millennium Tower, and that's pay dirt. And you have this kind of Rashomon thing where they're walking out of the Millennium Tower, he and Nima. So the question is, what do you see when you see that video? Is that one guy who knows he's about to commit a murder and the other guy who thinks the danger, whatever it was, has passed? We're fine.

We're going to go hang out. We're good. Or is that Nima who is no longer angry at Bob and Bob who is carrying a knife and planning on attacking Nima?