Josh Mankiewicz

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This story about a mother and son grifter team. This was a diabolical duo.

This story about a mother and son grifter team. This was a diabolical duo.

Next thing I know, he's around my back with his arm across my neck.

Next thing I know, he's around my back with his arm across my neck.

Next thing I know, he's around my back with his arm across my neck. And he did say to me, this is a hostage situation.

Next thing I know, he's around my back with his arm across my neck. And he did say to me, this is a hostage situation.

The interview was at noon. The corrections officer brings me to an empty cafeteria. There were two chairs. And Kenny walks in in his prison garb, and I'm sitting down with my two-man crew. And right away, I could tell something was going on, like his mind was racing. Are you saying, though, that Mrs. Silverman was aware that you were sharing the apartment with your mother? Yeah, absolutely.

The interview was at noon. The corrections officer brings me to an empty cafeteria. There were two chairs. And Kenny walks in in his prison garb, and I'm sitting down with my two-man crew. And right away, I could tell something was going on, like his mind was racing. Are you saying, though, that Mrs. Silverman was aware that you were sharing the apartment with your mother? Yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely. And after about 10 minutes, he said, can I go to the bathroom? So he went to the bathroom the first time. Asked him a couple of more questions. 10 minutes must have gone by. Can I go to the bathroom again?

Absolutely. And after about 10 minutes, he said, can I go to the bathroom? So he went to the bathroom the first time. Asked him a couple of more questions. 10 minutes must have gone by. Can I go to the bathroom again?

Then finally, the third time, he said to me, Maria, I'm really hungry. Would you mind getting me something to eat?

Then finally, the third time, he said to me, Maria, I'm really hungry. Would you mind getting me something to eat?

It all happened incredibly fast. Next thing I know, he's around my back with his arm across my neck. And he did say to me, this is a hostage situation.

It all happened incredibly fast. Next thing I know, he's around my back with his arm across my neck. And he did say to me, this is a hostage situation.

I said to him, Kenny, why are you doing this? And he basically said, I want to be extradited to Canada. My mother is an elderly woman. She can't live the rest of her life in prison.

I said to him, Kenny, why are you doing this? And he basically said, I want to be extradited to Canada. My mother is an elderly woman. She can't live the rest of her life in prison.

I finally said, do you know how to pray? And he said, yes. And he actually was very receptive to it. I know I needed some comfort. So we said the Lord's Prayer together. There was a hostage negotiator that after we prayed together, he said to Kenny, Kenny, I'm going to try to help you. Here is my business card. And he pulled out a business card and he reached out to Kenneth.

I finally said, do you know how to pray? And he said, yes. And he actually was very receptive to it. I know I needed some comfort. So we said the Lord's Prayer together. There was a hostage negotiator that after we prayed together, he said to Kenny, Kenny, I'm going to try to help you. Here is my business card. And he pulled out a business card and he reached out to Kenneth.

They must have just all jumped on him, and I heard him grunting and groaning, and I didn't look back.