Josh Mankiewicz

There would be video, and there would be a way to place Tony at the scene more accurately.

There would be video, and there would be a way to place Tony at the scene more accurately.

The prosecutor was pretty clear with you, I thought, that he believed that somebody else had helped Tony Tong get from Manhattan to New Jersey to cover his tracks. That it wasn't just, you know, he took a cab and the cab driver didn't realize, you know, who he was taking or why he was taking it and didn't remember it later. Like, he makes it sound like it's an actual co-conspirator.

The prosecutor was pretty clear with you, I thought, that he believed that somebody else had helped Tony Tong get from Manhattan to New Jersey to cover his tracks. That it wasn't just, you know, he took a cab and the cab driver didn't realize, you know, who he was taking or why he was taking it and didn't remember it later. Like, he makes it sound like it's an actual co-conspirator.

And nobody ever got arrested for that. I mean, the feeling you get is that whoever that was, if that person does exist, they're getting away with it.

And nobody ever got arrested for that. I mean, the feeling you get is that whoever that was, if that person does exist, they're getting away with it.

I mean, I've said this in the past, but there's this sense that, you know, out there in the public, as you know, that circumstantial evidence sort of is lesser, that it doesn't count as much. I mean, here's the thing about circumstantial evidence. It doesn't lie. Like, he did erase his hard drive at that time that night.

I mean, I've said this in the past, but there's this sense that, you know, out there in the public, as you know, that circumstantial evidence sort of is lesser, that it doesn't count as much. I mean, here's the thing about circumstantial evidence. It doesn't lie. Like, he did erase his hard drive at that time that night.

Circumstantial evidence can't be accused of forgetting to put on its eyeglasses. Circumstantial evidence can't be accused of being angry at the defendant and slanting its testimony for that reason. Circumstantial evidence is whatever it is. There's no other way to interpret that. So sometimes circumstantial evidence is much better than direct evidence.

Circumstantial evidence can't be accused of forgetting to put on its eyeglasses. Circumstantial evidence can't be accused of being angry at the defendant and slanting its testimony for that reason. Circumstantial evidence is whatever it is. There's no other way to interpret that. So sometimes circumstantial evidence is much better than direct evidence.

Right.

Right.

Well, you know, he leaves the apartment at different times than he says. His timeline does not match up. Rob's wife, who got some insurance money as a result of this, she would be someone police would look at. She clearly was not involved. Those kind of things also sort of end up pointing law enforcement more and more and more toward Tony, who's a natural suspect.

Well, you know, he leaves the apartment at different times than he says. His timeline does not match up. Rob's wife, who got some insurance money as a result of this, she would be someone police would look at. She clearly was not involved. Those kind of things also sort of end up pointing law enforcement more and more and more toward Tony, who's a natural suspect.

He's the husband whose wife is cheating on him with the person who ended up getting killed. Yeah.

He's the husband whose wife is cheating on him with the person who ended up getting killed. Yeah.

Okay, when we come back, Andrea has a behind-the-scenes story about her interview with Tony Tongue. Let me ask you a couple of things about Tony Tung, because when I see him in the interview and he's wearing that atrocious sweater, right? You know, which is clearly not prison wear. I think to myself, oh, OK, he's either not the guy or he was acquitted.

Okay, when we come back, Andrea has a behind-the-scenes story about her interview with Tony Tongue. Let me ask you a couple of things about Tony Tung, because when I see him in the interview and he's wearing that atrocious sweater, right? You know, which is clearly not prison wear. I think to myself, oh, OK, he's either not the guy or he was acquitted.

Now, for those of you who are listening who have not seen the episode, we have included a link to a photo from that interview in the episode description. Take a look.

Now, for those of you who are listening who have not seen the episode, we have included a link to a photo from that interview in the episode description. Take a look.