Josh Mankiewicz

What do you think made the difference between the first trial and the second trial? Because the first trial, the jury was out for a long time. I think sort of a lot of people expected a mistrial. The second one, you know, the jury was only out for a couple hours.

What do you think made the difference between the first trial and the second trial? Because the first trial, the jury was out for a long time. I think sort of a lot of people expected a mistrial. The second one, you know, the jury was only out for a couple hours.

After the break, Andrea is going to share two podcast exclusive clips that did not make it into the broadcast. One was Rob's best friend and the other from Rob's killer. I'm guessing you guys tried very hard to get Sophie to talk and she didn't want to. But you got Rob's sister, and she was great.

After the break, Andrea is going to share two podcast exclusive clips that did not make it into the broadcast. One was Rob's best friend and the other from Rob's killer. I'm guessing you guys tried very hard to get Sophie to talk and she didn't want to. But you got Rob's sister, and she was great.

Yeah. I thought your interview with Mayor Dodd was just so adorable. I mean, he seems like a great guy. And the closeness that he felt with Rob and clearly still feels all these years later is very obvious. I mean, he really loved his friend. And they loved each other. They had these silly nicknames for each other. They were funny. They were so funny.

Yeah. I thought your interview with Mayor Dodd was just so adorable. I mean, he seems like a great guy. And the closeness that he felt with Rob and clearly still feels all these years later is very obvious. I mean, he really loved his friend. And they loved each other. They had these silly nicknames for each other. They were funny. They were so funny.

So here's a clip that did not make the broadcast from your interview with Mehrdad.

So here's a clip that did not make the broadcast from your interview with Mehrdad.

I mean, if I'm in that situation, I'm not letting that guy in my house. I know why he's there. I know he's ticked off at me. I'm going to be like, hey, look, you should probably talk to your wife about this. Like, this is between the two of you. This is not about you and me. But I would not be like, hey, come on in. Let's have coffee. Let's be buds. That's a really good point.

I mean, if I'm in that situation, I'm not letting that guy in my house. I know why he's there. I know he's ticked off at me. I'm going to be like, hey, look, you should probably talk to your wife about this. Like, this is between the two of you. This is not about you and me. But I would not be like, hey, come on in. Let's have coffee. Let's be buds. That's a really good point.

Or if somebody's wearing an incredibly garish sweater.

Or if somebody's wearing an incredibly garish sweater.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Now we have a different piece of sound about the same thing. This is Tony Tong telling you about those visits to Rob. Let's listen to that.

Now we have a different piece of sound about the same thing. This is Tony Tong telling you about those visits to Rob. Let's listen to that.

not see this love triangle, you know, from Sophie's point of view, for example, or Rob's and not think to yourself, this is going to head in a direction I don't want it to head in. Like they did not seem to see that. Rob seemed to think, no, no, I'll win this guy over the way I win everybody over. And Sophie did not seem to perceive the danger. Yeah. Your husband has found out about the affair.

not see this love triangle, you know, from Sophie's point of view, for example, or Rob's and not think to yourself, this is going to head in a direction I don't want it to head in. Like they did not seem to see that. Rob seemed to think, no, no, I'll win this guy over the way I win everybody over. And Sophie did not seem to perceive the danger. Yeah. Your husband has found out about the affair.

He's been cyber-stalking you. He read all your emails. He's learned everything about this affair. And now he's going to confront the guy you're having the affair with. That's when, like, alarm bells should be going off. Like, this is a time to start taking this extremely seriously. Right. You know, one of the things Meridot said is, Rob died so Sophie could be free. Right.

He's been cyber-stalking you. He read all your emails. He's learned everything about this affair. And now he's going to confront the guy you're having the affair with. That's when, like, alarm bells should be going off. Like, this is a time to start taking this extremely seriously. Right. You know, one of the things Meridot said is, Rob died so Sophie could be free. Right.