Josh Mankiewicz
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But she can't get her story straight, and it clearly didn't occur to her that cops are going to be watching both of those things.
But she can't get her story straight, and it clearly didn't occur to her that cops are going to be watching both of those things.
Yeah. I loved the prosecutor going to the divorce hearing.
Yeah. I loved the prosecutor going to the divorce hearing.
Clint Rucker, when he was a prosecutor, he was the prosecutor in the Tex McIver case, which we covered here on Dateline. And he did a thing, which I, in that case, which I think he did in other cases, which is when he's giving, I can't remember whether it's his opening or his summation at the end. He had a jar of muddy water.
Clint Rucker, when he was a prosecutor, he was the prosecutor in the Tex McIver case, which we covered here on Dateline. And he did a thing, which I, in that case, which I think he did in other cases, which is when he's giving, I can't remember whether it's his opening or his summation at the end. He had a jar of muddy water.
But he shakes it up like a mason jar full of water and dirt, and so it's all muddy. And he puts it down on the edge of the juror box, and he says, this is cloudy.
But he shakes it up like a mason jar full of water and dirt, and so it's all muddy. And he puts it down on the edge of the juror box, and he says, this is cloudy.
And then he lays out his case. And that takes an hour or something because it's a long opening or a long summation. By the end, the silt has settled and you can see through the water. It's a good prop.
And then he lays out his case. And that takes an hour or something because it's a long opening or a long summation. By the end, the silt has settled and you can see through the water. It's a good prop.
I don't know if he did it in your trial or not.
I don't know if he did it in your trial or not.
Tommy was a good interview. I liked him.
Tommy was a good interview. I liked him.
It was also great that you saw him young and then you saw him later, too. I loved that.
It was also great that you saw him young and then you saw him later, too. I loved that.
Yes, yes. So she's convicted at the first trial. A couple of years later, her conviction is overturned on appeal. She's retried. This time, that does not go to verdict, and they offer her manslaughter, and she takes it, and she does 10 years. And Dionne is out now, walking around.
Yes, yes. So she's convicted at the first trial. A couple of years later, her conviction is overturned on appeal. She's retried. This time, that does not go to verdict, and they offer her manslaughter, and she takes it, and she does 10 years. And Dionne is out now, walking around.