Josh Mankiewicz

And they clearly killed that poor old woman in New York City just because they wanted to either live in her house or sell it and cash it out.

Great police work in this one.

And also some incredible luck in which one officer recognizes the sketch put out by a different part of the department.

Yeah.

I mean, one sense is there must have been a conversation in which they said, look, this is a car theft warrant, but these two are on the hook for a bunch of murders.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

When we come back, Keith has some extra sound that did not make the broadcast that he's going to play for us from his first interview with Kent Walker.

You know, most moms don't lead their kids into lives of crime, but that is a position of some colossal influence.

I hear my mom's voice when I have not made the bet, right?

I hear my mom saying, go make the bet.

And I do, and I'm good at it, too.

And that's all Holly Mankiewicz.

But most moms don't groom their kids for a life of crime, you know.

And the idea that one son couldn't break away and the other one knew he had to is such a great part of this story.

I don't excuse his behavior at all.

I don't.

He's right where he belongs.

He's a killer.