Josh Mankiewicz

Two stab wounds also kind of fights the, you know, frenzy, anger, I've had it with you theory. But, you know.

Two stab wounds also kind of fights the, you know, frenzy, anger, I've had it with you theory. But, you know.

You had a lot of access to the cops who investigated the case, who I thought were quite good. Tell me a little bit more about the ride along with David Goodman, who was the detective on this.

You had a lot of access to the cops who investigated the case, who I thought were quite good. Tell me a little bit more about the ride along with David Goodman, who was the detective on this.

You know, in a lot of jurisdictions, bigger ones, you know, I mean, there are 15-year-old cold cases here in Los Angeles, where I am right now. But since... the 15-year-old cold case, and now there have been hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of other murders. Some, a lot of them unsolved. You don't really have that in Minot. You don't have this huge backlog of open cases.

You know, in a lot of jurisdictions, bigger ones, you know, I mean, there are 15-year-old cold cases here in Los Angeles, where I am right now. But since... the 15-year-old cold case, and now there have been hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of other murders. Some, a lot of them unsolved. You don't really have that in Minot. You don't have this huge backlog of open cases.

And so I think this was, I get the feeling that this was kind of always in the back of their head.

And so I think this was, I get the feeling that this was kind of always in the back of their head.

Like that's not happening in your big cities.

Like that's not happening in your big cities.

When we get back, we'll have that clip of Blaine's interview with Anita's sister, Anna, and how she describes the family's journey to find justice and also how they're looking ahead now. It was really heartbreaking to see Anita's parents on the stand as bad as it was. It's a great example of sort of how excruciating this whole thing is from beginning to end for the families involved.

When we get back, we'll have that clip of Blaine's interview with Anita's sister, Anna, and how she describes the family's journey to find justice and also how they're looking ahead now. It was really heartbreaking to see Anita's parents on the stand as bad as it was. It's a great example of sort of how excruciating this whole thing is from beginning to end for the families involved.

And I say this all the time, like, you know, people always want to know, like, what's it like to sit across from murderers? That's easy. The hard part is sitting across from those families and watching what they have to go through.

And I say this all the time, like, you know, people always want to know, like, what's it like to sit across from murderers? That's easy. The hard part is sitting across from those families and watching what they have to go through.

Well, you know, and the other thing is sort of the part of the family's involvement that is not shown on TV because we just, you know, we only have two hours and not six hours. But, you know, by the time this gets into a courtroom, those parents, I don't know about these particular parents, but in almost all cases, that family, whoever we're talking about, has shown up for dozens of

Well, you know, and the other thing is sort of the part of the family's involvement that is not shown on TV because we just, you know, we only have two hours and not six hours. But, you know, by the time this gets into a courtroom, those parents, I don't know about these particular parents, but in almost all cases, that family, whoever we're talking about, has shown up for dozens of

Of different hearings involving, you know, status conferences, motion hearings, evidentiary hearings, all kinds of things in which they show up in the courtroom to represent the victim and to show the accused, hey, we're here and we haven't given up and we see you and we're going to be here throughout. And it becomes for these families like a second job.

Of different hearings involving, you know, status conferences, motion hearings, evidentiary hearings, all kinds of things in which they show up in the courtroom to represent the victim and to show the accused, hey, we're here and we haven't given up and we see you and we're going to be here throughout. And it becomes for these families like a second job.

Now let's talk about the verdict. So the judge issues this instruction beforehand, like everybody, you know, stay quiet. And then... the verdict is delivered and it's not guilty. And again, You know, they're acting like they just won a bowl game. I'm surprised that they didn't exercise a little bit more self-control, the defense.

Now let's talk about the verdict. So the judge issues this instruction beforehand, like everybody, you know, stay quiet. And then... the verdict is delivered and it's not guilty. And again, You know, they're acting like they just won a bowl game. I'm surprised that they didn't exercise a little bit more self-control, the defense.