Josh Mankiewicz

And I think it becomes a cathartic experience for many of these people to sit down and talk with us long form.

Because they've talked to police officers, but they just want this much information.

They've talked to the DA office.

We come in and say, tell us about your life.

Yeah, this took about two and a half years.

I think the first interview I did was Tyson Ranch, which was in Las Vegas.

And then after that, we went to Palm Springs and we did that wonderful interview with Barbara Wisby.

The richness of the characters in this episode

I thought really made a difference.

And I also thought Palm Springs as a character in itself kind of made a difference.

And it gave you a sense of sort of what life was like there and also sort of like who Cliff was.

Eddie was a sensational interview.

We did him early.

And then, you know, the case took forever, partly because of COVID.

And partly because there were two trials because the first verdict got thrown out.

And then the two of the defendants, Danny and David Replogle, managed to delay sentencing for a long time.

And so that made everything last longer.

So it was a lot longer than most Dateline episodes.

One of the things that I thought is going to hit home with all Dateline viewers is that

there were some very recognizable themes in this.