Josh Mankiewicz

And, you know, he was the Miranda thing later became a huge issue. But, you know, they kept saying to him, I think a bunch of times they said to him, you're not in custody. You can you can go. You know, and they point the doors right there. And that, I think, also gave him sort of a sense that, OK, this doesn't really count if I'm not being arrested. If I just keep denying it, I'll be OK.

And, you know, he was the Miranda thing later became a huge issue. But, you know, they kept saying to him, I think a bunch of times they said to him, you're not in custody. You can you can go. You know, and they point the doors right there. And that, I think, also gave him sort of a sense that, OK, this doesn't really count if I'm not being arrested. If I just keep denying it, I'll be OK.

But, you know, look, one of the things, again, that we learn in Dateline is that. Telling a lie is much harder than people think it is. And sticking with it is much harder than people think it is, particularly when the person you're talking with has some evidence that you don't know they have, and they are also kind of rolling it out bit by bit by bit. So you can't just be saying, I don't know.

But, you know, look, one of the things, again, that we learn in Dateline is that. Telling a lie is much harder than people think it is. And sticking with it is much harder than people think it is, particularly when the person you're talking with has some evidence that you don't know they have, and they are also kind of rolling it out bit by bit by bit. So you can't just be saying, I don't know.

I didn't do it. I wasn't there. I don't know. I don't know what happened. I wasn't there. Then they're like, well, wait a minute. Why is your phone and her phone in the same place? That kind of thing, right? First, he said, I wasn't there. I don't know what you're talking about. Then he said, OK, well, I did see her. OK, well, you know, I did stop. You know, I mean, you know, she was cute.

I didn't do it. I wasn't there. I don't know. I don't know what happened. I wasn't there. Then they're like, well, wait a minute. Why is your phone and her phone in the same place? That kind of thing, right? First, he said, I wasn't there. I don't know what you're talking about. Then he said, OK, well, I did see her. OK, well, you know, I did stop. You know, I mean, you know, she was cute.

I mean, all this stuff that he didn't want to say at the beginning. And eventually, as Officer Romero keeps talking to him, it just sort of starts coming out.

I mean, all this stuff that he didn't want to say at the beginning. And eventually, as Officer Romero keeps talking to him, it just sort of starts coming out.

It's just I mean, it's it's just the most gigantic error. And I know she's super regretted that. Fortunately, I mean, and the result was, I think, like six hours of his interrogation went out the window. The judge ruled they couldn't use that. Fortunately, he got remorandized, which was so brilliant.

It's just I mean, it's it's just the most gigantic error. And I know she's super regretted that. Fortunately, I mean, and the result was, I think, like six hours of his interrogation went out the window. The judge ruled they couldn't use that. Fortunately, he got remorandized, which was so brilliant.

He led them to her body and then he made another confession there. So, I mean, that ended up not being as big a deal as it otherwise might have been.

He led them to her body and then he made another confession there. So, I mean, that ended up not being as big a deal as it otherwise might have been.

When it is custodial or when the person believes it is custodial, in other words, I can't leave. I'm being questioned. I don't have the option to leave. That's where you need to advise somebody of their rights.

When it is custodial or when the person believes it is custodial, in other words, I can't leave. I'm being questioned. I don't have the option to leave. That's where you need to advise somebody of their rights.

Yeah. Yeah. And it's great that everybody did show up. I mean, that really tells you a lot about what kind of what kind of place Brooklyn, Iowa is.

Yeah. Yeah. And it's great that everybody did show up. I mean, that really tells you a lot about what kind of what kind of place Brooklyn, Iowa is.

Yeah. I mean, it's an awful story. And it all I mean, it's one of those things that, you know, if she goes out for a run five minutes later, you know, they don't run into each other. And she's alive today.

Yeah. I mean, it's an awful story. And it all I mean, it's one of those things that, you know, if she goes out for a run five minutes later, you know, they don't run into each other. And she's alive today.

Yeah. I mean, that's, look, you know, prosecutors don't like to go into court on any case, but certainly a murder case without some significant evidence. So, you know, maybe the killer was hoping that that stuff might get thrown out too. That's the only thing I can think of.

Yeah. I mean, that's, look, you know, prosecutors don't like to go into court on any case, but certainly a murder case without some significant evidence. So, you know, maybe the killer was hoping that that stuff might get thrown out too. That's the only thing I can think of.