Josh Mankiewicz

First of all, I love you so much, but I never want to hurt your family. Clearly, he went back on that decision. I think what the prosecutor is trying to show here is that there was this magnetism between the two of them that kept drawing them back together, even though they tried to break up a couple of times.

First of all, I love you so much, but I never want to hurt your family. Clearly, he went back on that decision. I think what the prosecutor is trying to show here is that there was this magnetism between the two of them that kept drawing them back together, even though they tried to break up a couple of times.

And look, I mean, I mean, here is the absolute worst thing that Rob Lamone did. If you believe her story and Jonathan's story, they both are claiming that it was Rob Lamone's idea that his wife sort of partake in this sort of, you know, party sex atmosphere. That is the allegation. Again, was it true or was she as active a player in that as he was? We don't know. But the idea is that somehow...

And look, I mean, I mean, here is the absolute worst thing that Rob Lamone did. If you believe her story and Jonathan's story, they both are claiming that it was Rob Lamone's idea that his wife sort of partake in this sort of, you know, party sex atmosphere. That is the allegation. Again, was it true or was she as active a player in that as he was? We don't know. But the idea is that somehow...

This is Jonathan's thinking that somehow that is in itself reprehensible and led him to sort of have no respect for Rob and somehow ignoring the fact that he's taking off his clothes with somebody else's wife. That's not as reprehensible because he's the one that's doing it.

This is Jonathan's thinking that somehow that is in itself reprehensible and led him to sort of have no respect for Rob and somehow ignoring the fact that he's taking off his clothes with somebody else's wife. That's not as reprehensible because he's the one that's doing it.

Yeah, right. I mean, you know, what's right for me is not right for you. And I can condemn your conduct while sort of, you know, exhibiting some of the same strange decisions myself.

Yeah, right. I mean, you know, what's right for me is not right for you. And I can condemn your conduct while sort of, you know, exhibiting some of the same strange decisions myself.

Thank you. Brandy Guthrie, thank you so much for that. That's one of my favorite lines in Dateline. Yeah, David did not flip on Bathsheba. That's what's interesting, is they spent so much time reading and talking about the Bible and using it to justify this affair that they were having, if not the And yet, if you read the story of David and Bathsheba, it's very clearly a cautionary tale.

Thank you. Brandy Guthrie, thank you so much for that. That's one of my favorite lines in Dateline. Yeah, David did not flip on Bathsheba. That's what's interesting, is they spent so much time reading and talking about the Bible and using it to justify this affair that they were having, if not the And yet, if you read the story of David and Bathsheba, it's very clearly a cautionary tale.

Like, you don't read that and think like, all right, yeah, that all worked out the way it was supposed to. It didn't. We can mirror this.

Like, you don't read that and think like, all right, yeah, that all worked out the way it was supposed to. It didn't. We can mirror this.

I mean, they were, no question they were. This would all happen sort of after the kids would go to bed and the liquor bottles would be uncorked.

I mean, they were, no question they were. This would all happen sort of after the kids would go to bed and the liquor bottles would be uncorked.

I was just going to ask you, yeah, when... Yeah, when the kids are in bed, I'm thinking that the last thing you and Jay are thinking about is let's have some other people over.

I was just going to ask you, yeah, when... Yeah, when the kids are in bed, I'm thinking that the last thing you and Jay are thinking about is let's have some other people over.

Yeah, no, it's I must say, I thought, wow, weren't you worn out?

Yeah, no, it's I must say, I thought, wow, weren't you worn out?

Yeah, the Bernatine's marriage did not survive all of this. And I guess the question is, you know. Is did this intrigue, you know, the the wolf pack? Maybe is that what undid them? Or is that what made a marriage possible? This little extracurricular thing that they were having, because in some cases that clearly is is the escape valve that people need.

Yeah, the Bernatine's marriage did not survive all of this. And I guess the question is, you know. Is did this intrigue, you know, the the wolf pack? Maybe is that what undid them? Or is that what made a marriage possible? This little extracurricular thing that they were having, because in some cases that clearly is is the escape valve that people need.