Josh Margolin

So like what happened here? We have been wanting to be able to interview him since he was arrested. It was clear almost from the get-go that they were going to use his own words against him. He was going to be his own worst enemy. The key witness for the prosecution was going to be the guy charged himself. So we obviously wanted to find out, hey man, why did you say all this stuff?

They're going to hang you for it. We had not been able to get access. You know, look, lawyers, they don't want their clients talking before trial. They certainly don't want them talking to news organizations because they're worried, you know, anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. Well, anything you say can and will be used against you.

They're going to hang you for it. We had not been able to get access. You know, look, lawyers, they don't want their clients talking before trial. They certainly don't want them talking to news organizations because they're worried, you know, anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. Well, anything you say can and will be used against you.

So they don't want any of that happening. But finally... Kifidi said that he would meet with us and we got special permission to have an in-person interview, not just a Zoom. We were going to be able to interview him one on one sitting in the same room. So we went to Las Vegas with our cameras all ready to go. At the appointed time, the corrections officers escorted him into the room.

So they don't want any of that happening. But finally... Kifidi said that he would meet with us and we got special permission to have an in-person interview, not just a Zoom. We were going to be able to interview him one on one sitting in the same room. So we went to Las Vegas with our cameras all ready to go. At the appointed time, the corrections officers escorted him into the room.

What happened? So we sit down with him. We spend about an hour with him. He talks about a whole range of things. Importantly, Brad, he tells us that he didn't do it, that he is innocent. He says that he was not even in Las Vegas at the time that Tupac was killed. Wait, but he said he... Then what does that do with the story he told everyone? And we got into a lot of stuff. Let me first say this.

What happened? So we sit down with him. We spend about an hour with him. He talks about a whole range of things. Importantly, Brad, he tells us that he didn't do it, that he is innocent. He says that he was not even in Las Vegas at the time that Tupac was killed. Wait, but he said he... Then what does that do with the story he told everyone? And we got into a lot of stuff. Let me first say this.

We spent a lot of time talking with him, everything from his history in Compton to the fact that even though he says that he didn't kill Tupac and wasn't part of the killing of Tupac, that Tupac's killing has actually caused a huge problem for his life ever since it happened, which, I mean, look, if he's innocent and he's sitting in jail for a crime he didn't commit, that's bad.

We spent a lot of time talking with him, everything from his history in Compton to the fact that even though he says that he didn't kill Tupac and wasn't part of the killing of Tupac, that Tupac's killing has actually caused a huge problem for his life ever since it happened, which, I mean, look, if he's innocent and he's sitting in jail for a crime he didn't commit, that's bad.

But we went through it and he had a lot of answers.

But we went through it and he had a lot of answers.

He explains them in different ways. He goes back and he says, first, the confessions that he gave to law enforcement. He thought that he had an immunity deal, that he is free and clear from any of that stuff being entered and used against him.

He explains them in different ways. He goes back and he says, first, the confessions that he gave to law enforcement. He thought that he had an immunity deal, that he is free and clear from any of that stuff being entered and used against him.

That's what he's saying. So then the question is, why would you lie if you're being interviewed by police and nothing can be used against you? He says that there was this drug case that had been built against him. And it was not only against him, but there were dozens of other possible defendants. And so he told the lie because there was no penalty for lying.

That's what he's saying. So then the question is, why would you lie if you're being interviewed by police and nothing can be used against you? He says that there was this drug case that had been built against him. And it was not only against him, but there were dozens of other possible defendants. And so he told the lie because there was no penalty for lying.

He just lied to save people from going to jail.

He just lied to save people from going to jail.

That's his first explanation about why he told the story confessing. Okay. But he didn't just tell it to law enforcement. Well, right. And then he says the reason why he repeated it in interviews down the road, he says he told that story for money. It was basically entertainment. People wanted to hear the story.

That's his first explanation about why he told the story confessing. Okay. But he didn't just tell it to law enforcement. Well, right. And then he says the reason why he repeated it in interviews down the road, he says he told that story for money. It was basically entertainment. People wanted to hear the story.

So he told the story, he says, in terms of the memoir, he says not only did he not participate in writing it, he didn't actually read it.