Josh Safdie

When you cast somebody, you're also casting a voice, which is interesting.

Like, I put Marianne from Brooklyn from The Stern Show.

She's the first person you see in the movie.

And her voice, what's great about Marianne from Brooklyn is she's so beautiful, but you hear this voice, and they put the crow sound all the time.

Fred's like, wah!

But I mean, that is something that I... It happened with Dave Krumholz, actually, because he was going for the part that Mitchell ended up getting.

And his audition was amazing.

He was great.

He's a great actor.

I've always loved him since Sums of Beverly Hills, even before then.

And he's just a fantastic actor.

But then he's like, you know, I saw the movie and I realized, oh, I lost it to that guy.

You know what I mean?

Like, you're not, he paints lines on a parking lot.

He's, he's, he's, uh, you know, he's, I, they wanted like this real, this real person, this guy's essence.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

as much as that he could emulate it, he's not that person.

And I think adding a lot of people who you also don't know, but you feel like you know them immediately has this kind of additive effect that you're just in real life.

And every single person in the cast, the guy who works in the shoe store, this guy, Lloyd, he's a horse better.

He's a great horse better at Aqueduct Racetrack.