Josh Safdie

So they're going to want to write a piece about him.

Then he's going to be proud of his little I used to walk around with a little village voice clipping when I would do my research and I'd pull it out to show somebody like I'm a serious filmmaker.

Check it out.

Look at my little village voice clipping.

And in hindsight, I was so proud of those little clippings in hindsight.

It's probably kind of pathetic.

You know what I mean?

I'm like showing this tiny little clipping and I'm like, trust me, give me some money to make this movie.

Look at me.

I was in the village voice.

And like the minute someone pulls a clipping out of their wallet, you've lost the argument, but he, but it's, but it's, but it's endearing when he, when Marty does it in the movie with Gwyneth.

And I think that like the magic with time I've been able to kind of, you know, it was tragic, but it's comedic, you know, what is the, um,

Comedy is tragedy plus time.

Like that feels that I think that's what makes that funny is that it's so tragic that he is that way, but he's so confident that it kind of downplays.

And I think his confidence is interesting to people.

I think it makes people are motivated to kind of want to root for him.

Plus, there's a little bit of a trick happening where it's the sporting elements you're forced to root for him.

yes you know like any i don't know any i don't understand anyone who watches sports casually like you have to have a narrative you have to have a team that you root for there's stories inside of that so that you can invest yourself in the game just to like that's why i think people love gambling so much because it's like oh i get to watch the sport and have something that i really want out of it yeah and uh i think that that that does help a little bit in the movie i think you feel like you really have to root for him

No, I you know, part of the inspiration for this movie was the feeling that I had after finishing Uncut Gems.

You have this like 10 year journey.