Josh Safdie

You just gotta stay tushy all the time.

Tushy, mushy tushy.

Mushy tushy.

But Sam, when I was making Gems, and, you know, spoiler alert to anyone who hasn't seen it, he dies at the end of the movie.

And the entire film, for me, was watching somebody who's so alive all the time, and knowing that he dies, I would well up and cry throughout the movie.

And he was like, what's going on with you?

And I was like, I know, I have issues.

But I really would... It's so funny that you had the power to keep him alive.

But he is also the best.

Yeah.

He's also so like, to me, that he is that like...

alive electric character who is like constantly looking to just disappear at any moment just to connect with somebody and he's that has he's anxious he's a very anxious person his early stand-up where he's talking pretending to be things in the refrigerator yeah you know what i mean he's uh his humor is very unique i grew up loving those albums so much of

So much to the point when I'm meeting people who appear on the albums, I'm like starstruck.

And so so I, you know, felt like I knew him on some level.

So when I wrote it for him, I also knew that he had he has this rage in him, which he does.

That's not.

You know, I mean, it's obviously those who know him, he can get he can have an outburst, but they're loving and immediately he can go back to being mushy, tushy.

But he's still like he's still Sandler and he's the Sandman people.

How many people do you know in your life?

You can just call them that like their nickname.