Josh Shapiro

I've also, for years, made very clear that I think America's interest in the region should be for stability and peace, and that it would be my hope that you would have two states living peacefully side by side, Israel and a Palestinian state.

I realize that is a long way off given where we are right now.

But it is clear that we need to work toward that.

And obviously, that Palestinian state cannot be led by Hamas, which is a terrorist organization.

And there has to be some structure that is put in place in order to create that.

As it relates to the war, which you also asked about in your question, I mean, this was a war of choice.

The president never defined the objectives.

It is clear he doesn't know how the hell to get out of this.

We'll see what he ultimately does with his big threats.

We're recording this on the eve of his big threat using language.

using language that was so offensive.

You'll excuse my language that diminished the value of human life.

We'll see what he ultimately does.

Does he chicken out as he usually does or does God forbid he go through with that?

But this was a war of choice.

He didn't know why he got into it.

He doesn't know how the hell to get out of it.

America.

America's national security interests have not been well served by this.

And economically, you've talked about this.