Josh Tyrangiel

I'm not sure it's something that ordinary people are really going to care about in the short and medium term, because to your point, it's already pretty damn useful.

Getting to that next phase where people are communicating through their AGI agents, I don't know.

One common thing about the guys that we just talked about

Their specialty is not human nature, right?

Their specialty is computing and financing and building.

I don't think they all know how people use these incredible products.

You and I use it to make ourselves smarter, to save some time, to explore the world a little bit.

I don't think that's what they're building it for.

So I don't think regardless of how smart the machine gets, I'm always going to want to talk to you.

You are going to be a surprise to me.

I'm going to get creative friction from talking to you.

Might I have our calendar bots schedule this conversation so that you and I don't have like six emails?

Yeah, maybe.

But I still think that the reward of human contact is being overlooked.

And I think it's just not the thing that they're concerned about.

Mm-hmm.

Oh, it worries me.

Listen, I didn't do this book as a counterweight to try and offset the negatives.

The negatives are real.

The one thing that actually keeps us safe is this concept of human in the loop, right?