Josh Vesper

I was gonna do whatever I had to do to show them that they're looking the wrong direction.

In the process of our conversation, I had heard a doorbell dinger go off.

Kind of like when you enter a business or some store, you hear that little dinger go off.

So I knew he was out and about somewhere.

And then as we continued the conversation about, you know, the next day and how we were gonna handle this and fix this going forward, I could hear in the background, like an ice dispenser.

And so in my mind, I just assumed that he went out, he'd left the home, went to a local convenience store that was kind of his drink stop to get his Dr. Peppers.

And so I'd heard all that and knew he was out.

I may have asked him to confirm that, but I don't recall if I did or not.

I don't think I heard him leave before hanging up, but we finished up the conversation and I think we talked about maybe just

keeping the space and we'd handle things the next day.

And then we finished up the conversation and, you know, I'm very thankful that, you know, he made that call that he reached out to me because I was able to tell him, you know, I was able to hear him tell me that he loved me and I was able to tell him that I loved him.

And that was one thing that he was always very good about.

One thing we knew, we were asked several times is, you know, was there anybody that he had a lifelong conflict with?

Or was there anyone that in the recent days, months, years that had threatened him or that he's had significant problems with?

And for us, we couldn't think of anybody.

I will say this to you, and I think that this is something, I don't know.

I know in the conversations with law enforcement between us and the family, there was some discussion about some of the injuries that he had had.

And because of...

I think because of some of the bruising on the side of his face that would be the passenger side of the vehicle, it seemed like he had been like assaulted or maybe punched from the opposite side of his truck, which made them believe that there may have potentially been more than one person.

And I don't know.