Josh Waitzkin
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And I think that it's very interesting in chess, like the seat that I had watching the impact on chess of first computers, increasingly powerful machines, and then artificial intelligence was fascinating. Because if you imagine like what it's like to see one's life's work be overcome in three hours of experimentation, like what AlphaZero did, just breathtaking.
and to give some perspective on things, there's an ELO system in chess, right? There's a ranking system. The highest rated chess players in the world, human chess players, are rated, you know, from Garry Kasparov, Magnus Carlsen, Bobby Fischer, all the world champions are rated somewhere in the 2,800 to 2,900 level, right? ELO. The strongest AI engines now are north of 3,800 ELO.
and to give some perspective on things, there's an ELO system in chess, right? There's a ranking system. The highest rated chess players in the world, human chess players, are rated, you know, from Garry Kasparov, Magnus Carlsen, Bobby Fischer, all the world champions are rated somewhere in the 2,800 to 2,900 level, right? ELO. The strongest AI engines now are north of 3,800 ELO.
and to give some perspective on things, there's an ELO system in chess, right? There's a ranking system. The highest rated chess players in the world, human chess players, are rated, you know, from Garry Kasparov, Magnus Carlsen, Bobby Fischer, all the world champions are rated somewhere in the 2,800 to 2,900 level, right? ELO. The strongest AI engines now are north of 3,800 ELO.
And just for context of how wild that gap is, when I was eight years old, my rating was 1,800. So the gap between me at eight, which is like I was ridiculous, and the world champion, human, is the same gap as the world champion and the strongest AI engines in the world. And so it's very hard for humans to conceive of being the ants, relative to the humans.
And just for context of how wild that gap is, when I was eight years old, my rating was 1,800. So the gap between me at eight, which is like I was ridiculous, and the world champion, human, is the same gap as the world champion and the strongest AI engines in the world. And so it's very hard for humans to conceive of being the ants, relative to the humans.
And just for context of how wild that gap is, when I was eight years old, my rating was 1,800. So the gap between me at eight, which is like I was ridiculous, and the world champion, human, is the same gap as the world champion and the strongest AI engines in the world. And so it's very hard for humans to conceive of being the ants, relative to the humans.
We are the ants now in terms of, or we soon will be, what is possible. And I think that that could be channeled for the good or it could be channeled for the bad. And the question, what are the motivations of the people who are really driving these companies? So I've been thinking for a long time of how to, combine, like, what's the light side of the force of the artificial intelligence world?
We are the ants now in terms of, or we soon will be, what is possible. And I think that that could be channeled for the good or it could be channeled for the bad. And the question, what are the motivations of the people who are really driving these companies? So I've been thinking for a long time of how to, combine, like, what's the light side of the force of the artificial intelligence world?
We are the ants now in terms of, or we soon will be, what is possible. And I think that that could be channeled for the good or it could be channeled for the bad. And the question, what are the motivations of the people who are really driving these companies? So I've been thinking for a long time of how to, combine, like, what's the light side of the force of the artificial intelligence world?
And what Jeff and I and a dear friend, Chris Fussell, who is a brilliant man who, he wrote Team of Teams and One Mission. He was an elite Navy SEAL, and then he ended up running Joint Special Operations Command, JSOC with Stan McChrystal. Then he was president of the McChrystal Group, and now he's president of Lila Science.
And what Jeff and I and a dear friend, Chris Fussell, who is a brilliant man who, he wrote Team of Teams and One Mission. He was an elite Navy SEAL, and then he ended up running Joint Special Operations Command, JSOC with Stan McChrystal. Then he was president of the McChrystal Group, and now he's president of Lila Science.
And what Jeff and I and a dear friend, Chris Fussell, who is a brilliant man who, he wrote Team of Teams and One Mission. He was an elite Navy SEAL, and then he ended up running Joint Special Operations Command, JSOC with Stan McChrystal. Then he was president of the McChrystal Group, and now he's president of Lila Science.
Jeff, Chris, and I and a brilliant man named Jack Millwood, who's the chief cultural officer, have been And I brought together this tribe of a few different brilliant friends who were part of this. And it's basically taking cutting edge science and taking cutting edge AI, bringing them together to create scientific superintelligence.
Jeff, Chris, and I and a brilliant man named Jack Millwood, who's the chief cultural officer, have been And I brought together this tribe of a few different brilliant friends who were part of this. And it's basically taking cutting edge science and taking cutting edge AI, bringing them together to create scientific superintelligence.
Jeff, Chris, and I and a brilliant man named Jack Millwood, who's the chief cultural officer, have been And I brought together this tribe of a few different brilliant friends who were part of this. And it's basically taking cutting edge science and taking cutting edge AI, bringing them together to create scientific superintelligence.
focused on, and we're creating these AI science factories where the entire scientific process can be replicated, can be driven nonstop. The way AlphaZero was driving nonstop iteration in the chess world, what if this is happening in the scientific process?
focused on, and we're creating these AI science factories where the entire scientific process can be replicated, can be driven nonstop. The way AlphaZero was driving nonstop iteration in the chess world, what if this is happening in the scientific process?
focused on, and we're creating these AI science factories where the entire scientific process can be replicated, can be driven nonstop. The way AlphaZero was driving nonstop iteration in the chess world, what if this is happening in the scientific process?
And experimental design and experimental execution and then study of experimental results and study of the entire scientific literature. And imagine all of that happening with robotics, with 3,800 ELO-rated scientists, AI scientists, and then millions of them networked. And now if you have this, from my perspective, the most important thing is the safety.