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Josh Waitzkin

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2253 total appearances

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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2292 - Josh Waitzkin

So our psychologies had to be constructed so that we could sit in cognitive and emotional dissonance for long, long periods of time, days, weeks, months, sometimes years. Now chess players can click on a button and they've got a supercomputer right by their side. We'll tell them the answer instantly.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2292 - Josh Waitzkin

So our psychologies had to be constructed so that we could sit in cognitive and emotional dissonance for long, long periods of time, days, weeks, months, sometimes years. Now chess players can click on a button and they've got a supercomputer right by their side. We'll tell them the answer instantly.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2292 - Josh Waitzkin

It's interesting to think about how different that is psychologically and the different kinds of people that that draws in. But what happened then is that you had Deep Blue entered the game like supercomputers, and then you had the movement of AI entering into chess. And we had AlphaGo and then AlphaZero, which came out of DeepMind. So Demis Hassabis was the developer of DeepMind.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2292 - Josh Waitzkin

It's interesting to think about how different that is psychologically and the different kinds of people that that draws in. But what happened then is that you had Deep Blue entered the game like supercomputers, and then you had the movement of AI entering into chess. And we had AlphaGo and then AlphaZero, which came out of DeepMind. So Demis Hassabis was the developer of DeepMind.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2292 - Josh Waitzkin

It's interesting to think about how different that is psychologically and the different kinds of people that that draws in. But what happened then is that you had Deep Blue entered the game like supercomputers, and then you had the movement of AI entering into chess. And we had AlphaGo and then AlphaZero, which came out of DeepMind. So Demis Hassabis was the developer of DeepMind.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2292 - Josh Waitzkin

He was a childhood chess friend of mine. So Demis and I from age 11 on were good friends and we had dialogue about the birth of DeepMind, which was this AI company he began. And then he developed AlphaGo and AlphaZero. And to give a feel for what AlphaZero did in chess.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2292 - Josh Waitzkin

He was a childhood chess friend of mine. So Demis and I from age 11 on were good friends and we had dialogue about the birth of DeepMind, which was this AI company he began. And then he developed AlphaGo and AlphaZero. And to give a feel for what AlphaZero did in chess.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2292 - Josh Waitzkin

He was a childhood chess friend of mine. So Demis and I from age 11 on were good friends and we had dialogue about the birth of DeepMind, which was this AI company he began. And then he developed AlphaGo and AlphaZero. And to give a feel for what AlphaZero did in chess.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2292 - Josh Waitzkin

AlphaZero was able to, without being taught anything about humans playing chess, no education of the history of human chess playing, within three hours of experimentation, was stronger than any human or computer in history. So imagine your life's work. I was a pretty good chess player. Someone like Magnus Carlsen is a much, much stronger chess player. He's a world champion. Garry Kasparov.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2292 - Josh Waitzkin

AlphaZero was able to, without being taught anything about humans playing chess, no education of the history of human chess playing, within three hours of experimentation, was stronger than any human or computer in history. So imagine your life's work. I was a pretty good chess player. Someone like Magnus Carlsen is a much, much stronger chess player. He's a world champion. Garry Kasparov.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2292 - Josh Waitzkin

AlphaZero was able to, without being taught anything about humans playing chess, no education of the history of human chess playing, within three hours of experimentation, was stronger than any human or computer in history. So imagine your life's work. I was a pretty good chess player. Someone like Magnus Carlsen is a much, much stronger chess player. He's a world champion. Garry Kasparov.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2292 - Josh Waitzkin

Anatoly Karpov, Bobby Fischer. Think about people who are world champions. AlphaZero, within three hours of experimentation, without being taught anything, was stronger than them. So the strongest AI engine in the world today is rated 3700 ELO. So to give a sense for what that means, when I was nine years old, my rating was like 1900 or so, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2292 - Josh Waitzkin

Anatoly Karpov, Bobby Fischer. Think about people who are world champions. AlphaZero, within three hours of experimentation, without being taught anything, was stronger than them. So the strongest AI engine in the world today is rated 3700 ELO. So to give a sense for what that means, when I was nine years old, my rating was like 1900 or so, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2292 - Josh Waitzkin

Anatoly Karpov, Bobby Fischer. Think about people who are world champions. AlphaZero, within three hours of experimentation, without being taught anything, was stronger than them. So the strongest AI engine in the world today is rated 3700 ELO. So to give a sense for what that means, when I was nine years old, my rating was like 1900 or so, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2292 - Josh Waitzkin

Magnus Carlsen, like the strongest human players in the world now are rated somewhere about 2800, 2850-ish ELO. The strongest AI is 3700 ELO. So just like the absurdity of the fact, the gap between like a strong nine-year-old and the human world champion is the same ELO gap as between the world champion and the strongest AI. Wow.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2292 - Josh Waitzkin

Magnus Carlsen, like the strongest human players in the world now are rated somewhere about 2800, 2850-ish ELO. The strongest AI is 3700 ELO. So just like the absurdity of the fact, the gap between like a strong nine-year-old and the human world champion is the same ELO gap as between the world champion and the strongest AI. Wow.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2292 - Josh Waitzkin

Magnus Carlsen, like the strongest human players in the world now are rated somewhere about 2800, 2850-ish ELO. The strongest AI is 3700 ELO. So just like the absurdity of the fact, the gap between like a strong nine-year-old and the human world champion is the same ELO gap as between the world champion and the strongest AI. Wow.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2292 - Josh Waitzkin

It gets so hard for us to really wrap our heads around what that means. That means that everything โ€“ like chess players had a front row seat to that happening early. When I listen to some of your dialogues with these guys and I could feel you and them trying to grapple with how to communicate what it means to โ€“ to have these insanely powerful intelligences in the world.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2292 - Josh Waitzkin

It gets so hard for us to really wrap our heads around what that means. That means that everything โ€“ like chess players had a front row seat to that happening early. When I listen to some of your dialogues with these guys and I could feel you and them trying to grapple with how to communicate what it means to โ€“ to have these insanely powerful intelligences in the world.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2292 - Josh Waitzkin

It gets so hard for us to really wrap our heads around what that means. That means that everything โ€“ like chess players had a front row seat to that happening early. When I listen to some of your dialogues with these guys and I could feel you and them trying to grapple with how to communicate what it means to โ€“ to have these insanely powerful intelligences in the world.