Josh Waitzkin

The things that felt so important to you now seem somewhat trivial because you've already accomplished that. Like where's the intrinsic motivation? Where's the deep self-expression, right? You think about... Like as we gain complexity in our psychology, and we can gain that complexity in many different ways, we hit this tunnel, right?

The things that felt so important to you now seem somewhat trivial because you've already accomplished that. Like where's the intrinsic motivation? Where's the deep self-expression, right? You think about... Like as we gain complexity in our psychology, and we can gain that complexity in many different ways, we hit this tunnel, right?

And often when someone becomes self-aware, or when someone becomes less liberated, or like the chains set in, or when one, I guess you say you're an extreme athlete, but you feel invincible. And then suddenly you have a terrible accident. You realize, holy shit, I could actually die. I can break.

And often when someone becomes self-aware, or when someone becomes less liberated, or like the chains set in, or when one, I guess you say you're an extreme athlete, but you feel invincible. And then suddenly you have a terrible accident. You realize, holy shit, I could actually die. I can break.

And often when someone becomes self-aware, or when someone becomes less liberated, or like the chains set in, or when one, I guess you say you're an extreme athlete, but you feel invincible. And then suddenly you have a terrible accident. You realize, holy shit, I could actually die. I can break.

Then how do you get back to that freedom of taking the wild risks that you've been taking as that extreme athlete with an awareness of the fact that you can die? Like for me, I had, you know, I foil now in the biggest waves that I can find in where I live in Costa Rica. And, you know, you have big hold downs. You're foiling on top of a long mass, which is a carbon mass, which is very sharp.

Then how do you get back to that freedom of taking the wild risks that you've been taking as that extreme athlete with an awareness of the fact that you can die? Like for me, I had, you know, I foil now in the biggest waves that I can find in where I live in Costa Rica. And, you know, you have big hold downs. You're foiling on top of a long mass, which is a carbon mass, which is very sharp.

Then how do you get back to that freedom of taking the wild risks that you've been taking as that extreme athlete with an awareness of the fact that you can die? Like for me, I had, you know, I foil now in the biggest waves that I can find in where I live in Costa Rica. And, you know, you have big hold downs. You're foiling on top of a long mass, which is a carbon mass, which is very sharp.

And then a wing, which is sharp. So you're basically going 40, 45 miles on top of a guillotine. And if you're trying to, you know, you're really cultivating high performance foiling, you're pushing turns really hard. You're breaching wingtips like you can taco and have the thing come right at your head or your neck.

And then a wing, which is sharp. So you're basically going 40, 45 miles on top of a guillotine. And if you're trying to, you know, you're really cultivating high performance foiling, you're pushing turns really hard. You're breaching wingtips like you can taco and have the thing come right at your head or your neck.

And then a wing, which is sharp. So you're basically going 40, 45 miles on top of a guillotine. And if you're trying to, you know, you're really cultivating high performance foiling, you're pushing turns really hard. You're breaching wingtips like you can taco and have the thing come right at your head or your neck.

Like you can die at any minute if you get something wrong, which is very different from just like foiling straight or e-foiling. We're talking about high-performance training. Like you, by definition, have to be risking these things in order to push the limits of what's possible. And if you're not, you're not at that stretch point, right? But then suddenly like you have a terrible injury.

Like you can die at any minute if you get something wrong, which is very different from just like foiling straight or e-foiling. We're talking about high-performance training. Like you, by definition, have to be risking these things in order to push the limits of what's possible. And if you're not, you're not at that stretch point, right? But then suddenly like you have a terrible injury.

Like you can die at any minute if you get something wrong, which is very different from just like foiling straight or e-foiling. We're talking about high-performance training. Like you, by definition, have to be risking these things in order to push the limits of what's possible. And if you're not, you're not at that stretch point, right? But then suddenly like you have a terrible injury.

Or let's just say you're – like I drowned on the bottom of a pool yesterday. Um, some 11 years ago, 10, 11 years ago.

Or let's just say you're – like I drowned on the bottom of a pool yesterday. Um, some 11 years ago, 10, 11 years ago.

Or let's just say you're – like I drowned on the bottom of a pool yesterday. Um, some 11 years ago, 10, 11 years ago.

Yeah. It was a, I was doing, um, hypoxic breath work. I did not realize, which maybe if I'd, you could have taught me if I'd known you that carbon dioxide will gives you the urge to breathe. I didn't realize that. So I had all the CO2 flushed out of my body. I felt blissful. I was swimming underwater. Yeah.

Yeah. It was a, I was doing, um, hypoxic breath work. I did not realize, which maybe if I'd, you could have taught me if I'd known you that carbon dioxide will gives you the urge to breathe. I didn't realize that. So I had all the CO2 flushed out of my body. I felt blissful. I was swimming underwater. Yeah.

Yeah. It was a, I was doing, um, hypoxic breath work. I did not realize, which maybe if I'd, you could have taught me if I'd known you that carbon dioxide will gives you the urge to breathe. I didn't realize that. So I had all the CO2 flushed out of my body. I felt blissful. I was swimming underwater. Yeah.