Josh Widdicombe

But the way you hold the little ball does concern me.

But apart from that, also as well, you've never held a... It's hard to pose with a little ball.

Let us behind the curtain.

Oh, so that's why you're like that, to conceal the hook.

To conceal the hook, you see.

Yeah, there you go.

Joe and Emma are managing to conceal the hook without looking like they're going to smash it down Hollywood Bowl.

Yeah, he knows his way around the hook.

He knows how to conceal a hook.

Is his glitter ball smaller than yours or is he just bigger than you?

Yeah, absolutely.

But if it's coming from a man that the story's about, but the story's true, it's not great for you.

Well, because what I would say is that you're a bit more of a, what's a, outsiders in the betting before this all began, where when you, I think that's the way to, when there's rumours.

Can I put a bet on Joshua in between those?

Who?

Oh, he does a podcast with Rob Beckett.

All right, Ian, have two to one.

We know how that works.

Yeah, because normally with like a football, you know, manager replacement, it's like, you know.

You know who the runners and riders are.