Joshua Citarella

You actually get to take from the other side.

Yeah, and not lambasted or shamed into sort of changing their beliefs because they're insufficiently

pure or well-educated or understanding of this particular thing.

It's much easier to just align the incentives.

And I think if you have someone like Mamdani that comes in and says, looks like you're being screwed over,

I felt screwed over.

He speaks to me because that was exactly what Trump said.

Just again, the two people arrive.

It's a much better example than my fucking vaccine one.

Two people arriving at very similar sort of sounding rhetorics from the complete opposite sides of the spectrum.

So I guess if you were to think about like the meme president would be Trump, right?

I saw a video the other day.

I saw a screen recording.

It was on Sam Harris's show.

of the White House website tracking the development of the West Wing or something.

And in it is Clinton getting a blow job and Hunter Biden doing crack on the official White House website.

Well, that was the reason that I said it, that you have somebody who is maybe the meme president.

Has the internet leet-speak...

being shown by the guy that has the most power, has that legitimized or galvanized the communities that you guys are seeing more?

I have to assume it would do.