Joshua Citarella

Explaining, yes.

Fuck, I can't remember who it was.

God damn it.

Somebody's son came on, young guy, son of a politician-y type cultural commentator person, to explain why Nick Fuentes...

is popular and has impact among young people or whatever um if i was to think about what is sort of internet first meme adjacent yeah like radical shit posty subculture that appears to be in the ascendancy he would be the first person that i would think of um what have you come to

He must be a pretty canonical example, given sort of what you've been tracking over the last few years.

It's giving me a little bit of the mirroring that some splinter factions of the less insane left have.

seem to be looking at now in the wake of look at how much of an ongoing identity politics was Kamala is for they, them, Trump is for you was the most effective ad of the 2024 campaign.

We need to create some daylight in between ourselves and that.

I think that

might be blowing with the wind a little bit more than a principle based approach.

Um, this seems to be some people that were sort of, they had a bit of a revulsion response or like a principled ethical issue with it.

But also if you look around and you go, anyone else find this okay?

Uh, no, they don't seem to you'll blow with the wind a little too, but I'm seeing a little, at least somewhat of a symmetry between those two situations.

Okay, so you've got Charlottesville, fallout, splinter factions.

How does that lead to what we're seeing currently with Nick Pontes?

I mean, we would have seen, had it been only a few years earlier, you would have seen someone like Milo Yiannopoulos, would have probably been that, but I guess his cancellation plus a cent.

Yeah.

Who else?

Again, all of this has been foreplay for me to get to the real point, which is if Nick is my... I'm like a brown belt normie, right?