Joshua Fox

Like, that's like a PR spin, essentially.

And then you probably got John Aitken next to him going, yeah, we really tested them this week.

Like, to me, that's not unmissable or unfiltered.

That's just...

Boring.

And on that, then the other thing I'm curious about is, well, if they are able to deliver something unmissable and unfiltered, how will they do this as a network while still maintaining that they're protecting the participants' mental health?

Because, for example, say you get a cast member on who's just had a hectic dinner party episode and she was the center of drama.

She's either going to come on and call out production and the network and say, this isn't what happened, which I suppose this new show will not allow.

So therefore, she's going to do the opposite and call out whoever she's just in a fight with, which is then the network adding to that other person's distress.

Do you see the tight rope they're walking?

Is that what they're saying?

Sorry, my brain is not with it today.

But yeah, that's kind of...

the interesting points here.

Like, firstly, them saying the show's never been done before.

It has, and you cancelled it for a reason.

So I'm just curious what you're going to do going forward.

But as I said, yeah, I'm excited to see.

Anyway, moving on from that now, which former cast members have landed big new television shows?

Firstly, apparently last night on The Golden Bachelor, Evelyn Ellis made an appearance at some charity gala or something.