Joshua Greene

That's sort of the bright side.

The dark side is that the reason this stuff evolved is because teamwork is a powerful weapon, either for direct confrontation or for out competing in a more peaceful kind of way.

And as I see it, the sort of long term challenge for our species is

can we take the cooperative apparatus that we've developed for life within the tribe and apply it in a broader way so that it doesn't have to be a destructive force?

Yeah, so before I do that, I neglected to exercise my emotionally driven gratitude.

Thank you again for having me here.

And it's a special honor since I'm a big fan of both of you.

I think there are a few different things.

The general theme is that you have to meet people where they are, right?

That if you're talking about being open to some new cause or open to some new person or type of person, if people feel that they're being forced

into something that they don't like, they won't go along with it.

I'll give you an example.

There was this great study that was done by Benedict Herman and colleagues.

It came out in Science in 2008.

They ran what are called public goods games.

So this is essentially a multi-person prisoner's dilemma and a kind of cooperation sort of setup where everybody gets a certain amount of money.

They can put their money into a common pool.

Whatever gets put in gets doubled by the experimenters and then divided equally among everybody who participates.

And there were plenty of places where people, they ran the exact same study in different cities around the world.

And there are places like Denmark and Boston and St.