Joshua Vides

They're like, we did good.

I'm like, cool.

That's all I need to know.

We didn't come here for that.

You know, I'm here just like meeting people.

I brought my kids right now.

Like he wants to have a booth at complex con next year.

So I'm like, this is how people do this.

And look, you got to pay for the rug and we're going to spend 25 to 50 K.

Yeah.

You know, and so it's like, again, how can you come here and make noise without being dependent on making money?

Yeah.

You know, that's the goal, I believe.

Right.

Yeah, I guess it's continuous.

You know, like I've I've been in the game for almost like 15 years now outside of just being an artist.

I had a brand before this.

And, you know, we had a big dip like this in 2016, but it's necessary because it just like washes and rinses, you know, the market and the space and whoever doesn't stay afloat kind of goes away and then they go get jobs or they go, I don't know, do whatever else is next.

You know, only the strong survive, really.

You know, unfortunately, I'm here 15 years later doing the same shit.