Juana Summers

Tensions are high in Minnesota.

But where do plans stand for the federal government to draw back federal officers from the state and de-escalate?

When asked about this on Thursday, President Trump said, We want to keep our country safe.

Which came hours after White House border czar Tom Homan said this Thursday.

Consider this.

Minnesota's governor is skeptical about many things the administration is saying about de-escalating its immigration crackdown.

Coming up, we speak with Democratic Minnesota Governor Tim Walz.

From NPR, I'm Juana Summers.

It's Consider This from NPR.

Earlier today, I sat down with Governor Tim Walz at the Minnesota State Capitol to talk about ICE enforcement in his state.

Here is some of our conversation, and you can watch full video of the interview on NPR's YouTube channel and at NPR.org.

I just want to start big picture for people who are not in Minnesota as you and I are.

What is the status of Operation Metro Surge in your state right now?

And does that align with what you have been hearing from the president, administration officials that you have been speaking with in recent days?

Let me ask you this.

This is a president and administration that is constantly changing its mind and its message.

Earlier this week, you heard the president say he wanted to de-escalate a little.

And as you point out, you just heard the president say, you know, no pullback.

How do you lead your state to lead the people here in Minnesota when you don't know what's coming next?

You don't know what direction they're going to turn.