Judd Zulgad

And frankly, that might be...

Going back to the John Hines point, a really crucial thing where you kind of keep his legs a little fresher for the head-to-head matchup where it's going to be Hughes versus McCarr all day long tomorrow.

Yeah, it's...

I mean, I think that just goes back to like the mentality and the fact that that just shows they're buying it.

What's the what's the old the famous miracle quote where the name on the front's a lot more important than the name on the back?

It's a cliche.

And I want to say it's like that's been said time and time again, and it may be even a joking matter.

But it shows that these guys, this group of guys, they're buying in and the kind of grit first mentality, the culture that Bill Guerin has talked about and what we've heard over the course of this five year plan or whatever it was since he's taken over our ice to grit first and all this stuff, whatever it is, might be out the window.

And it seems good.

And that's the thing.

There might be no gimmicks this year.

Do you know?

That's a great point.

No, I don't.

I was just thinking that.

I don't think there's like a gimmick.

And yeah, good.

That was the jinx.

That was the jinx.

It's great.