Judd Zulgad

Like I've had one, one main, one interaction that has stuck with me forever since he was with the Canucks.

And again, I think the Canucks botched that whole situation too, with who they sided on.

Right.

Like, I mean, just absolutely traumatic, but I was doing a feature story on Brock Besser for USA hockey magazine and JT being a USA hockey guy, being his teammates.

I was like, I need another voice, whatever.

And he didn't have anything nice to say about Brock Besser.

And I, part of me was like, you're trying to joke, but you're kind of coming off like an a-hole.

Like, this isn't really that funny.

Like you're not even like, it's not even like good joking.

Like you were just kind of being mean talking about your teammates and talking about one of your friends.

And that just always stuck with me.

And I was like,

I don't think I like you.

Like, I don't think you're that great of a dude.

Like it was just, it was a very bizarre behavior.

And I was like, if you're going to talk to a reporter like that about one of your teammates who you're, Oh, you know, we're friends.

Like, I can't imagine how you interact and what kind of locker room guy you are, frankly.

And we all know how important that is.

Now it's interesting.

Again, that's why I wanted to,