Judge Milton Mack

So people in law enforcement are on the front line.

There's not a...

police officer around who won't tell you that dealing with people with behavioral health issues is a big part of their job.

If we can take care of that at the mental health treatment level, we help them out.

And we even help out community treatment because if you get people on there into treatment and into recovery, it puts less pressure on everybody all the way around.

People eventually see it.

Right.

I think you spoke with Judge Steve Leifman, I believe, already.

Yes.

And he's a master at that.

He's...

It's amazing what he's done.

Florida is not a Medicaid expansion state, and they don't have a good civil system for mental health issues like we do in Michigan.

So to that extent, Michigan really is in an advantageous position.

And theoretically, we should be doing better than what Judge Leifman is doing.

But Judge Leifman has got a head start on us.

So we're still trying to catch up.

But we're trying to, we're moving into, we're relying on crisis centers instead of hospitals.

And if we rely on outpatient treatment, crisis centers and so forth, and hospital emergency rooms are gonna look a lot different.

It's quite an operation.