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Judge Milton Mack

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Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

Now, that experience is pretty traumatic. Yes, that's what everyone says. Why do we have to do it that way? And we don't have to do it that way. We inflict trauma, and then the period of hospitalization is a few days. In fact, we measure length of stay by hundreds of a day. So we say, okay, the average length of stay in Wayne County is 6.25 days.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

I don't know what the length of stay is now, but it's typically less than seven days.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

I don't know what the length of stay is now, but it's typically less than seven days.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

I don't know what the length of stay is now, but it's typically less than seven days.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

Well You know, judicial leadership really does matter And if you're familiar with the Myers-Briggs personality profile, basically I saw a paper on this by judges, and judges tend to be introverts, and they tend to be reluctant to engage directly with the legislature. But you have to find the judicial leadership at each level.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

Well You know, judicial leadership really does matter And if you're familiar with the Myers-Briggs personality profile, basically I saw a paper on this by judges, and judges tend to be introverts, and they tend to be reluctant to engage directly with the legislature. But you have to find the judicial leadership at each level.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

Well You know, judicial leadership really does matter And if you're familiar with the Myers-Briggs personality profile, basically I saw a paper on this by judges, and judges tend to be introverts, and they tend to be reluctant to engage directly with the legislature. But you have to find the judicial leadership at each level.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

Now, when we formed the National Task Force, one of the recommendations by the National Task Force was every state at the administrative level, Supreme Court level, Every state should have a behavioral health administrator at that level. And Michigan now has one. Illinois has one. Pennsylvania has one. And this provides leadership at the state level.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

Now, when we formed the National Task Force, one of the recommendations by the National Task Force was every state at the administrative level, Supreme Court level, Every state should have a behavioral health administrator at that level. And Michigan now has one. Illinois has one. Pennsylvania has one. And this provides leadership at the state level.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

Now, when we formed the National Task Force, one of the recommendations by the National Task Force was every state at the administrative level, Supreme Court level, Every state should have a behavioral health administrator at that level. And Michigan now has one. Illinois has one. Pennsylvania has one. And this provides leadership at the state level.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

Michigan and Wayne County, Judge Freddie Burton formed a behavioral health unit within the probate court to monitor this process from beginning to end, to create accountability by the hospital, the community treatment system, and so forth. And then the person he hired to run it has now been hired by the state to run the behavioral health unit for the state of Michigan.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

Michigan and Wayne County, Judge Freddie Burton formed a behavioral health unit within the probate court to monitor this process from beginning to end, to create accountability by the hospital, the community treatment system, and so forth. And then the person he hired to run it has now been hired by the state to run the behavioral health unit for the state of Michigan.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

Michigan and Wayne County, Judge Freddie Burton formed a behavioral health unit within the probate court to monitor this process from beginning to end, to create accountability by the hospital, the community treatment system, and so forth. And then the person he hired to run it has now been hired by the state to run the behavioral health unit for the state of Michigan.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

And part of her mission is to find champions across the state. We don't need a lot of them, but we need one for region, for example. This can be copied across the country by each state court administrative office, having someone who's charged with that responsibility to find these individuals who are willing to do this. So I'm seeing progress.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

And part of her mission is to find champions across the state. We don't need a lot of them, but we need one for region, for example. This can be copied across the country by each state court administrative office, having someone who's charged with that responsibility to find these individuals who are willing to do this. So I'm seeing progress.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

And part of her mission is to find champions across the state. We don't need a lot of them, but we need one for region, for example. This can be copied across the country by each state court administrative office, having someone who's charged with that responsibility to find these individuals who are willing to do this. So I'm seeing progress.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

I will admit, for the first 20 years, I wasn't seeing much progress. But things really started to change when that series came out. I had a call from the Attorney Governor's office wanting to know if I would help fix the statute. I thought back to my experience with the Mental Health Commission in 2004, where we made 70-some recommendations that got nothing. So, is this not a wild goose chase?

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

I will admit, for the first 20 years, I wasn't seeing much progress. But things really started to change when that series came out. I had a call from the Attorney Governor's office wanting to know if I would help fix the statute. I thought back to my experience with the Mental Health Commission in 2004, where we made 70-some recommendations that got nothing. So, is this not a wild goose chase?

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

I will admit, for the first 20 years, I wasn't seeing much progress. But things really started to change when that series came out. I had a call from the Attorney Governor's office wanting to know if I would help fix the statute. I thought back to my experience with the Mental Health Commission in 2004, where we made 70-some recommendations that got nothing. So, is this not a wild goose chase?

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

I was assured it wasn't. So I went up and did that, and things are improving. There is a challenge, though. Implementation is a big deal. So in the 50s, it was one-stop shopping. A person was admitted to a facility, and that facility provided all the services the person could possibly need. Well, now, that's not the case. Now you're in the community.