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Judge Milton Mack

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Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

that do this sort of work. But only about 3% of the people who have a mental illness in our state jails are in a treatment court. The treatment courts are expensive and you can't scale them up. So if you really want to make a difference, go upstream. Help people stay well so they don't get in trouble with the law.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

That's true. But we're having one of our bills to create a diversion process for those who are charged with liftometers. So currently in Michigan and most states, when you're charged with a crime, you have a mental illness, they send you to the forensic center for an evaluation. And they have to discern if you're competent to stand trial or not.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

That's true. But we're having one of our bills to create a diversion process for those who are charged with liftometers. So currently in Michigan and most states, when you're charged with a crime, you have a mental illness, they send you to the forensic center for an evaluation. And they have to discern if you're competent to stand trial or not.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

That's true. But we're having one of our bills to create a diversion process for those who are charged with liftometers. So currently in Michigan and most states, when you're charged with a crime, you have a mental illness, they send you to the forensic center for an evaluation. And they have to discern if you're competent to stand trial or not.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

If you're not competent to stand trial, they have to make you competent to stand trial so they can convict you. Now, for misdemeanors, sending those individuals to the forensic center is an enormous waste of time, talent, money, resources, resources. Because at the end of the day, all you're going to get is a conviction for a misdemeanor, for an individual who's going to re-offend.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

If you're not competent to stand trial, they have to make you competent to stand trial so they can convict you. Now, for misdemeanors, sending those individuals to the forensic center is an enormous waste of time, talent, money, resources, resources. Because at the end of the day, all you're going to get is a conviction for a misdemeanor, for an individual who's going to re-offend.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

If you're not competent to stand trial, they have to make you competent to stand trial so they can convict you. Now, for misdemeanors, sending those individuals to the forensic center is an enormous waste of time, talent, money, resources, resources. Because at the end of the day, all you're going to get is a conviction for a misdemeanor, for an individual who's going to re-offend.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

So, to be much smarter, so instead of sending this person to the forensic center, you send them in to assess the outpatient treatment and drop the criminal charges. Now, when we put together that legislation, we had the support of the Michigan Prosecutors Association, as well as the Defense Bar. We had the support of the disability rights people.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

So, to be much smarter, so instead of sending this person to the forensic center, you send them in to assess the outpatient treatment and drop the criminal charges. Now, when we put together that legislation, we had the support of the Michigan Prosecutors Association, as well as the Defense Bar. We had the support of the disability rights people.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

So, to be much smarter, so instead of sending this person to the forensic center, you send them in to assess the outpatient treatment and drop the criminal charges. Now, when we put together that legislation, we had the support of the Michigan Prosecutors Association, as well as the Defense Bar. We had the support of the disability rights people.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

So they all saw this as a better option, because if we can take someone who's mentally ill, committing misdemeanors, and get them well, then we're not going to have to deal with them again in the criminal justice system.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

So they all saw this as a better option, because if we can take someone who's mentally ill, committing misdemeanors, and get them well, then we're not going to have to deal with them again in the criminal justice system.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

So they all saw this as a better option, because if we can take someone who's mentally ill, committing misdemeanors, and get them well, then we're not going to have to deal with them again in the criminal justice system.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

So let's see if we go upstream and take care of people before they get in trouble with the criminal justice system, then you're just going to significantly reduce the impact at that level.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

So let's see if we go upstream and take care of people before they get in trouble with the criminal justice system, then you're just going to significantly reduce the impact at that level.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

So let's see if we go upstream and take care of people before they get in trouble with the criminal justice system, then you're just going to significantly reduce the impact at that level.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

It's been very enlightening. It's been enlightening for stakeholders to find out how they are victims of a bad system. So, for example, hospital emergency rooms are crying for the fact that their emergency rooms are crowded with people with mental illness. And I point out, well, you know, if we take care of them properly, they won't be coming to your emergency rooms or law enforcement.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

It's been very enlightening. It's been enlightening for stakeholders to find out how they are victims of a bad system. So, for example, hospital emergency rooms are crying for the fact that their emergency rooms are crowded with people with mental illness. And I point out, well, you know, if we take care of them properly, they won't be coming to your emergency rooms or law enforcement.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

It's been very enlightening. It's been enlightening for stakeholders to find out how they are victims of a bad system. So, for example, hospital emergency rooms are crying for the fact that their emergency rooms are crowded with people with mental illness. And I point out, well, you know, if we take care of them properly, they won't be coming to your emergency rooms or law enforcement.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack's Mission to Reform Mental Healthcare

You know, one third of all the people in this country with a serious mental illness, their pathway to care was through law enforcement, which is kind of staggering. So people in law enforcement are on the front line. There's not a... police officer around who won't tell you that dealing with people with behavioral health issues is a big part of their job.