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Judge Milton Mack

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520 total appearances

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Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 1: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

Thank you for having us.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 1: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

Yeah, in Arizona, at least in some of our counties, we have some problems with AOT.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 1: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

We don't exactly do it quite right.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 1: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

The court order treatment doesn't, at least in Maricopa County, doesn't involve the judge.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 1: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

And it only requires like a report to be submitted to the judge, but it doesn't put anybody in front of the judge and it doesn't create any accountability for our clinics.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

Well, when I became a probate judge, that's when I started hearing these mental health cases, and I had no familiarity with them at all.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

But it did take me long to say, I don't think this is working.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

I'm seeing the same people over and over and over again.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

This person's been hospitalized by every probate judge who's served since 1970, and with multiple hospitalizations, and it just seemed to me that things weren't working.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

We weren't accomplishing anything, that we were just in this revolving door.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

I started to agitate for change, you might say.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

This led to my being appointed to the Governor's Mental Health Commission in 2004.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

When I was appointed, the points I wanted to make were the mental health system was an inpatient model in an outpatient world.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

It was focused on hospitalization and preventing hospitalization, but not promoting that, not focused on getting people well.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

So I advocated a number of changes, which the commission adopted, but I really got nowhere.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

But I kept plugging along.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

And then one day, Channel 7 came in and wanted to film a mental health case.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

Early in my career, I probably would not have done that.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

But I thought, you know, the public should see this.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

They should see what's going on.