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Judge Milton Mack

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Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

The harm doesn't have to be immediate.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

So, for example, we had a case in Michigan at the trial, the mental health trial.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

The doctor testified that the individual was not presently at risk of harm.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

However, he had a history of stopping taking his medicine.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

And the doctor testified that he could be expected to stop taking his medicine in three to six months.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

And he would then be at risk of harm, harm in the form of drug abuse, suicide, increased risk for dementia, and so forth.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

And the court of appeals said, yeah, that's good enough.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

But how, looking at the total circumstance, would you get somebody into treatment?

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

What we've done in Michigan is we actually have a system of mediation for mental health cases, which I think is kind of unique.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

Works best for petitions where you ask for outpatient treatment only.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

So we have a system in Michigan now where you can file a petition with the probate court, don't go to the hospital, don't go to the police department.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

The person, let me put it this way.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

When I'm hearing cases in probate court, and I'd ask family members, when did he stop taking his medication?

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

And they say six months ago, eight months ago.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

We all know where this is going.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

We're just waiting for the magic moment.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

Well, no, we don't have to wait anymore.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

So you can file a petition with the probate court and get a hearing on whether to order outpatient treatment.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

And then as an extra tool, instead of going to a full hearing, you can say, let's go to mediation.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Milton Mack: A Man on a Mission to Reform Mental Health

So we have mediation centers across the state.