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Judge Steven Leifman

๐Ÿ‘ค Person
252 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Liefman: Breaking the Cycle of Autism and Mental Illness in Criminal Justice

We're so quick to try to incarcerate before we treat that it's absurd and it's expensive. The United States spent almost a trillion, with a T, dollars last year on costs related to incarceration. Could you imagine what we could do with that kind of money for mental health and autism?

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Liefman: Breaking the Cycle of Autism and Mental Illness in Criminal Justice

We're so quick to try to incarcerate before we treat that it's absurd and it's expensive. The United States spent almost a trillion, with a T, dollars last year on costs related to incarceration. Could you imagine what we could do with that kind of money for mental health and autism?

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Liefman: Breaking the Cycle of Autism and Mental Illness in Criminal Justice

It's a couple of things. The message is very important, but I'm finding equally important is who delivers the message. And I think one of the great things that's going on in the U.S. right now is the level of judges that have gotten involved. Reality is that we're seen as Switzerland. We don't have an axe to grind. We don't have an interest or a financial interest.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Liefman: Breaking the Cycle of Autism and Mental Illness in Criminal Justice

It's a couple of things. The message is very important, but I'm finding equally important is who delivers the message. And I think one of the great things that's going on in the U.S. right now is the level of judges that have gotten involved. Reality is that we're seen as Switzerland. We don't have an axe to grind. We don't have an interest or a financial interest.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Liefman: Breaking the Cycle of Autism and Mental Illness in Criminal Justice

It's a couple of things. The message is very important, but I'm finding equally important is who delivers the message. And I think one of the great things that's going on in the U.S. right now is the level of judges that have gotten involved. Reality is that we're seen as Switzerland. We don't have an axe to grind. We don't have an interest or a financial interest.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Liefman: Breaking the Cycle of Autism and Mental Illness in Criminal Justice

By having judges become involved in this issue has really opened a lot of doors. It gets the right people to the table. I tell people the best part of my job is that when I invite people to a meeting, they come. And so we need to use that moral authority, get people to the table, and explain to them what we're doing and why it works.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Liefman: Breaking the Cycle of Autism and Mental Illness in Criminal Justice

By having judges become involved in this issue has really opened a lot of doors. It gets the right people to the table. I tell people the best part of my job is that when I invite people to a meeting, they come. And so we need to use that moral authority, get people to the table, and explain to them what we're doing and why it works.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Liefman: Breaking the Cycle of Autism and Mental Illness in Criminal Justice

By having judges become involved in this issue has really opened a lot of doors. It gets the right people to the table. I tell people the best part of my job is that when I invite people to a meeting, they come. And so we need to use that moral authority, get people to the table, and explain to them what we're doing and why it works.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Liefman: Breaking the Cycle of Autism and Mental Illness in Criminal Justice

And look, as cynical as I could be on days, I do believe when you get a chance to meet people one-on-one and you really get to talk about these issues rationally instead of In the world we live on where everything is argued, most people get this. They don't want to see people with mental illnesses in jail. They have loved ones. They know people.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Liefman: Breaking the Cycle of Autism and Mental Illness in Criminal Justice

And look, as cynical as I could be on days, I do believe when you get a chance to meet people one-on-one and you really get to talk about these issues rationally instead of In the world we live on where everything is argued, most people get this. They don't want to see people with mental illnesses in jail. They have loved ones. They know people.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Liefman: Breaking the Cycle of Autism and Mental Illness in Criminal Justice

And look, as cynical as I could be on days, I do believe when you get a chance to meet people one-on-one and you really get to talk about these issues rationally instead of In the world we live on where everything is argued, most people get this. They don't want to see people with mental illnesses in jail. They have loved ones. They know people.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Liefman: Breaking the Cycle of Autism and Mental Illness in Criminal Justice

They want to make sure that this population is cared for, treated, housed. And they know that if you do that, we're going to get better outcomes. And they're pining for it. They really want a system that works as opposed to trying to navigate one that doesn't.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Liefman: Breaking the Cycle of Autism and Mental Illness in Criminal Justice

They want to make sure that this population is cared for, treated, housed. And they know that if you do that, we're going to get better outcomes. And they're pining for it. They really want a system that works as opposed to trying to navigate one that doesn't.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Liefman: Breaking the Cycle of Autism and Mental Illness in Criminal Justice

They want to make sure that this population is cared for, treated, housed. And they know that if you do that, we're going to get better outcomes. And they're pining for it. They really want a system that works as opposed to trying to navigate one that doesn't.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Liefman: Breaking the Cycle of Autism and Mental Illness in Criminal Justice

Yeah, that was pretty amazing. Talk about humbling and not bad for a Jewish guy. It came as quite a shock, quite a surprise. It was one of the most humbling recognitions I've ever received. The archbishop, unbeknownst to me, was very familiar with my work, and he nominated me, and the pope selected me, and I received this beautiful medal. It was pretty stunning.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Liefman: Breaking the Cycle of Autism and Mental Illness in Criminal Justice

Yeah, that was pretty amazing. Talk about humbling and not bad for a Jewish guy. It came as quite a shock, quite a surprise. It was one of the most humbling recognitions I've ever received. The archbishop, unbeknownst to me, was very familiar with my work, and he nominated me, and the pope selected me, and I received this beautiful medal. It was pretty stunning.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Liefman: Breaking the Cycle of Autism and Mental Illness in Criminal Justice

Yeah, that was pretty amazing. Talk about humbling and not bad for a Jewish guy. It came as quite a shock, quite a surprise. It was one of the most humbling recognitions I've ever received. The archbishop, unbeknownst to me, was very familiar with my work, and he nominated me, and the pope selected me, and I received this beautiful medal. It was pretty stunning.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Liefman: Breaking the Cycle of Autism and Mental Illness in Criminal Justice

I think what I most appreciated about it was the level of attention it has brought to this cause. And I'm sure that's why they do it, because this isn't one of those sexy issues with cute little kids. People have a lot of stigma about this population. They're afraid of this population. They think they're dangerous. They're not.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Liefman: Breaking the Cycle of Autism and Mental Illness in Criminal Justice

I think what I most appreciated about it was the level of attention it has brought to this cause. And I'm sure that's why they do it, because this isn't one of those sexy issues with cute little kids. People have a lot of stigma about this population. They're afraid of this population. They think they're dangerous. They're not.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
Judge Liefman: Breaking the Cycle of Autism and Mental Illness in Criminal Justice

I think what I most appreciated about it was the level of attention it has brought to this cause. And I'm sure that's why they do it, because this isn't one of those sexy issues with cute little kids. People have a lot of stigma about this population. They're afraid of this population. They think they're dangerous. They're not.