Judith Bowles
Appearances
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
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Isn't that fun? People seem to love the little stuff we say. Yes.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Listen Again: Julia Gets Wise with Isabella Rossellini
Wow. But is that a conscious thing or is that something that our body does? I sort of think it's so easy to personify. the animals that they like. Yes. But there's a wonderful phrase in a Mary Oliver poem, you should love the soft animal of your body.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
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And whatever happens to open us up to be fertile, to be whatever, I just wonder whether or not that sort of happens with animals under certain circumstances. And they don't like think, oh, I like it. I don't like it. It's just something that happens to them, to their bodies to permit the opening.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Listen Again: Julia Gets Wise with Isabella Rossellini
Oh, how wonderful that she has found this.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Listen Again: Julia Gets Wise with Isabella Rossellini
So many things were, you know, were open to her to do. And I'm sure that in some ways, you know, she had such a youth of so much attention for her looks and for being who she was. But the fact that she was able to
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
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take that when it was offered and be i'm sure so grateful for it but then to find something that she could make be herself something that she already loved but that she could then create a body out of
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Listen Again: Julia Gets Wise with Isabella Rossellini
Absolutely. Absolutely.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Listen Again: Julia Gets Wise with Isabella Rossellini
I do. But community is, it comes and goes. You know, in other words, we all talk about community so that we have a group that we think about, but it has to be nurtured.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Listen Again: Julia Gets Wise with Isabella Rossellini
It has to be nurtured. And there's laughter, but you also have to look for it sometimes because it's not right at your doorstep every morning. Wouldn't that be nice if it were? You just open the door and you go, ah.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Listen Again: Julia Gets Wise with Isabella Rossellini
That's the funniest thing I've ever seen.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Listen Again: Julia Gets Wise with Isabella Rossellini
Okay. Well, sign off and be well.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Listen Again: Julia Gets Wise with Isabella Rossellini
Can you read it? I'd be happy to read it, yes, and especially a good poem for now.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Listen Again: Julia Gets Wise with Isabella Rossellini
Wild geese, you do not have to be good. You do not have to walk on your knees for a hundred miles through the desert, repenting. You only have to let the soft animal of your body love what it loves. Tell me about despair, yours, and I will tell you mine. Meanwhile, the world goes on.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Listen Again: Julia Gets Wise with Isabella Rossellini
Meanwhile, the sun and the clear pebbles of the rain are moving across the landscapes, over the prairies and the deep trees, the mountains and the rivers. Meanwhile, the wild geese high in the clean blue air are heading home again. Whoever you are,
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
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No matter how lonely, the world offers itself to your imagination, calls to you like the wild geese, harsh and exciting, over and over, announcing your place in the family of things. Well, that's a beauty.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Listen Again: Julia Gets Wise with Isabella Rossellini
The thing that just kills me is tell me about despair, yours and mine. Yeah. yeah, it's a good poem. It's good. It's a good one. It's a good one. Okay. Well, love to everybody and keep heart. Yes. And have a little fun if you can. Yep. Love to you guys. Okay.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Julia Gets Wise with Nancy Pelosi
Hello. Hello. Thank you for letting me sit in on that incredible, incredible interview. And what a moment in life for me. Yeah, that was pretty crazy, right? Oh, I mean... I'm just so grateful. I'm so grateful to Nancy Pelosi for being there for so long, for such a strong way and being so right about everything. It was a great pleasure to see her and just be with her.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Julia Gets Wise with Nancy Pelosi
Extremely. Because Nancy Pelosi is very connected to the women that came before her. Yes. She feels very completely viscerally connected to and those that are coming after. Because if you remember when she became the first woman head of the House, she had her grandchildren come.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Julia Gets Wise with Nancy Pelosi
And they will always remember that moment. And, you know, if you're there at one of these crowning moments, it changes your life. That's right. You know, and our dear Thea and the girls that age and the younger girls all have all these opportunities now, thanks to people like Nancy Pelosi, who actually broke into it. And boy, were they ever entitled to it.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Julia Gets Wise with Nancy Pelosi
Right. It's a bridge over time. And if you envision that, then that makes your work terribly important, but not just for you. It makes it for the future. Right. Mom. Yes, I have to say, I lost my calendar. I was thinking of the future. I'm on my cell phone. My calendar has disappeared. Why? Did you get a new phone?
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Julia Gets Wise with Nancy Pelosi
No, I got the same phone, just my calendar, you know, the little thing that says 13 like today, that's disappeared. So I go into Siri and I say, Siri, find my calendar. So guess what she comes up with? I don't know. What? This thing that says my calendar. It's got little roses on it and all kinds of little flowers and fairies and things. And then the pregnancy calendar. A what?
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Julia Gets Wise with Nancy Pelosi
A pregnancy calendar. And you keep that. When was your last period? Did you put in 1981? Yes. I can't count backwards that well, so I decided to look for another calendar. But I thought that was a good idea. So, I mean, you can look up anything these days. You can find, you know, whatever you want to do, you can find something, a calendar to help you.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Julia Gets Wise with Nancy Pelosi
I know. I search that, and what comes up is one day. So in other words, I can find out what's happening today, but then I don't get my app back.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Julia Gets Wise with Nancy Pelosi
Okay. Well, promise you will do that.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Julia Gets Wise with Nancy Pelosi
I didn't know who you were talking to.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Julia Gets Wise with Nancy Pelosi
Yes. I have to say it has really been a great season because – of what we've learned about the women and how you've listened to them and how important it's been for all of us to listen to all of it and get our own energy involved with it.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Julia Gets Wise with Nancy Pelosi
And I love you so much, and don't think I'm not learning anything from you. I learned plenty. I know you do. Yeah. And we've got more lessons to come. Oh. Ooh. Okay. I love you. I love you. Bye. Bye.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Julia Gets Wise with Sylvia Earle
She's 89 years old. I know. I know. I read that. She's born the year after me. Yes. Incredible. Has she ever stopped? Because I was looking at her record and it looks like she's been diving. She dived every day of her life.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Julia Gets Wise with Sylvia Earle
I adored it. It's like another world. Oh, I adored it. You were on that same boat when we were in Bermuda, and the fellow took us way out so that you were at the edge of a cliff underwater. And so then you sort of snorkeled over the cliff, and you looked down. It was like Grand Canyon. And then all these fish were coming. I mean, it was like another world. Oh, my God, I loved it. I loved it. Yeah.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Julia Gets Wise with Sylvia Earle
Would you ever have gone scuba diving? I don't know if I wanted to go deeper or not, but snorkeling would have been good enough for me.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Julia Gets Wise with Sylvia Earle
Aquanaut. I love that word. Yeah, it's a real word, isn't that neat? Wonderful, wonderful, yeah. She has three children.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Julia Gets Wise with Sylvia Earle
And can you imagine having a grandmother that takes you into places like that? Right. Totally.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Julia Gets Wise with Sylvia Earle
Yeah, that's right. That's right. I've got to find a way in. I've got to find a way into their psyche. So many people have this thing about, yeah, poetry.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Julia Gets Wise with Sylvia Earle
I do remember that. I do. And I remember that Brad and Henry set a poem of mine to music for my birthday.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Julia Gets Wise with Sylvia Earle
So wonderful. Oh, my gosh. And especially the line. Abandon all stories for this one. For this one, yeah. And they just kept saying that. And that was wonderful.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Julia Gets Wise with Sylvia Earle
And we'll say we'll say do and we'll say do and which is a good I think I got from you the idea that's a good wordle thing to start.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Julia Gets Wise with Sylvia Earle
Adieu is a good wordle word. Another good word that I got the other day was arise.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Julia Gets Wise with Sylvia Earle
Well, I do it until it becomes like, oh, I've got to do this. I've got to prove to myself I can do it. You know, it happens to me in a certain, so I let it go for a few days then. And then I just come back to it where it can just be fun, you know.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Julia Gets Wise with Sylvia Earle
Okay, good. I'm going to meditate. All right. I have a meditation group here in 20 minutes. Perfect.
Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Julia Gets Wise with Sylvia Earle
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