Judy Faulkner

Right.

And I believe she got put in jail in her 80s for protesting at a nuclear site.

She always said she hates war, but she loves the soldiers.

We have a photo of her and the policeman writing out the ticket, and they're both smiling happily at each other.

It's a very cute photo.

Well, that was a concept my mother charged me with when I went off to college.

She said that's what she wants me to do.

You're going off to college now.

Try to make the world a better place.

Try to help people.

And I remember thinking, oh, that's a big burden to put on an 18-year-old's shoulders.

I remember thinking that.

Now I look back at it and think she was so wise to do that.

Between my junior and senior year, I took a summer job at University of Rochester.

It was supposed to be particle physics.

When I got there, they expected me to program, and I'd never seen a computer, so they gave me a Fortran book and a week's access to the computer.

And at the end of the week, they said I was a good programmer.

But to me, it was games.

So when I applied for graduate school, I thought it was so neat that the University of Wisconsin on their own moved me to computer science.

No, I didn't know you could apply for computer science.