Juju Chang

And so it was a very sort of difficult time in law enforcement.

And so it was really shaped by that.

His family was not, you could understand, inclined to talk about it.

It really did shape his life.

So that for the next 20 years, literally, the investigators were tireless.

They tested 146 different people against the two DNA samples that they had.

And it just they couldn't find a match.

I mean, people who love true crime,

understand and have heard of CODIS.

I'm sure you've done stories.

It stands for the Combined DNA Index System.

And so all of these DNA samples are in their database, but there was never a match because the person who murdered Debbie Dorian was not a convicted violent criminal.

And so his DNA was not in the CODIS system.

And so that's why for 20 years it was unsolved because even though they had these two samples, they couldn't do it.

That said, it was really a fascinating look at how they stopped the clock on the statute of limitations because because they had these two DNA matches and they knew the statute of limitations was running out, they issued what's called a John Doe arrest warrant.

Mm-hmm.

So that they knew, well, we have the DNA sample, we just don't have a name to it.

And so it was an ingenious way of getting around the statute of limitations on the sexual assault.

She is a remarkable survivor.

And she's one of those countless women I've interviewed who just blow my socks off because they are so brave in coming forward and sharing their stories.