Juju Chang

Did you fear for your life?

There were times that I did, for sure.

With knowing that he could do it once, what makes you think he can't do it again?

Once Rachel knows that her children are safe and away from Nick, she decides she's going to confront him.

Rachel's feeling nervous about her safety, so she brings her friend Emily along.

You decided you wanted to record the conversation.

Yeah.

Why?

Because I didn't know what was going to happen in that conversation, and possibly maybe there'd be a confession of some sort.

But how did you secretly record the conversation?

I just had my phone next to me on my lap, and the conversation started.

I said I found out about a possible foreclosure.

I found out that you haven't been paying bills, that you've been lying about paying these bills.

And then, you know, I said, how am I supposed to know this information and not think that you may have had something to do with Heidi's death?

I know it's shocking for you to hear that from me, and it's shocking, trust me, it's shocking for me to think it.

Nick sits there, silently, without saying a word.

This goes on for minutes.

The fact that you're saying it is so indescribably jarring to my soul that I can hardly breathe.

I don't have words, Rach.

It is too traumatic.