Juju Chang

If Heidi did know all this was happening, why was there nothing packed in their house?

Like, that's just illogical.

If you look at the videotape taken by police on the day of the murder, that does not look like a house that was prepared for a big move out.

hear rachel challenging nick's parents asking how is it possible that you had no idea that nick was losing the house like nobody knew that's just so bizarre to me so we weren't super entwined in their life there weren't grandchildren involved that naturally gives them more of a connection but that was different for their family right that they said that they were shocked that they didn't know because he told them everything

they never pushed into our personal business heidi and i decided together that we would figure this out together nick's dad tells rachel that their lawyer had advised the family not to speak publicly about heidi's death the role we needed to play was to not say anything and let people that know how to play the game play the game

When Rachel challenges Nick about his memory, he says that a lot of stuff is fuzzy.

You don't have vivid memories from back then.

You did, but when you talked about it, it was like detailed of what happened.

And so you keep saying that, but that's not true.

One day, I get a knock on my door.

I think it's somebody that's selling me something.

And she was like, I'm Nikki Sipes.

I'm from St.

Paul Police Department.

I want to talk about Heidi Furcus.

And I never, never in a million years thought that that would happen.

The idea that Rachel, who was married to Nick Fergus, he's the father of her children, that she cooperated with you, that's pretty amazing.

She's a very brave woman.

How much danger was she potentially in?

That's a great question.