Julia Collins

And had not been for that, I don't know that I'd be where I am now.

And that is where I think a lot of young people, when they're looking for mentorship, get it twisted.

You need to come in, you need to do your research and you need to understand what is the one thing that I can deliver to this person that is going to make it sticky for them to want to invest in me.

Because it isn't that people aren't kindhearted or don't want to help you.

It's that people are busy.

So you need to be able to show how you can demonstrate that value quickly.

That right there.

Yeah.

So you did.

Yeah.

And then you're in business with Danny.

Well, I was working for Danny as like a lowly intern at Shake Shack, but it was a foot in the door.

And it was early.

This was when there was still just one shack.

Right.

With the plans for the second.

Oh.

So I had an opportunity to really see how it gets built from the ground up.

And then from there, Emma, you just never underestimate the importance of being delightful to work with, saying yes a lot.

I think we get to a point later in our career, we have to learn the art of no.