Julia Cowley

not real, real time, but very much involved, not way after the fact as a lot of our cases that come to us or they may be cold cases, they may be years and years old.

So profiling those cases, this is what is probably what I think could be going on with this case, with Nancy's case, where they're constantly being updated, they're providing suggestions, maybe they're starting to form,

some kind of analysis to some extent, getting some kind of idea about motive, about personality traits and characteristics.

You know, the other thing is one or two offenders.

I mean, all of these things will be assessed and that's all based on what was found at the scene as the evidence is starting to come in and be processed.

What is that telling everybody?

And not only the FBI's behavioral analysis unit, but in this case, probably the hostage negotiation unit as well.

They likely, in my experience, when we had cases that involved maybe a ransom note or communications where you have to negotiate something, the hostage negotiation unit took the lead.

And we would be there as kind of backup as discussion, but that was their area of expertise.

So I wouldn't be surprised if the negotiators are involved as well.

Yes.

I was trying to think if I've ever actually worked a case where it was a kidnapping with a real ransom.

I'm not sure.

Maybe I'm familiar with one.

I couldn't remember.

The cases that I have worked on that involved ransom notes of some sort were either hoaxes or...

They were cover ups in a way or, you know, it may be an attempt to get money, but it's also a way for some offenders to prolong what they've done.

And I think that was the case of Israel Keys.

He was an opportunist.

He's like, I might as well try to get money as well.