Julia Keller
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56 appearances
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first heard Apr 2025
last heard Apr 2025
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I mean, there was nothing written on any stone somewhere, you know, that with a sword thrust in it that said Ryan Reynolds is going to be a successful movie star. No one knew that. All he could do was try. But he was ready on a moment's notice to try something else. That's the point he makes to Letterman. He said, oh, no, no, no. I had all kinds of contingency plans.
I think we plan all the time that we've got to do something different. We have to have that kind of flexibility.
Well, let me emphasize again that this is very individual. You did stick with this, but I dare say there have to have been some other things in your life, perhaps careers, that you thought would be the right one for you. You know, you're a talented man. You could have done many different things.
um there are times when you thought you were going to do something and you had to change in order to get to the point where you could become the host of a very successful podcast that's the point i mean you don't know what all you could do is listen to yourself and your mind and heart and soul said to you nope okay this may be rough in the beginning but this is what i'm this is what i'm made for i can feel this is what i this is what i'm meant to do and when you have that feeling you mike that's your decision and that's really my only point is that it has to be your decision
Well, again, I disagree and I hope that my book is a refutation of that. I think it's the most practical thing you can do is to consider quitting. And people often do use their families as excuses. And I say that as somebody who has done that in the past too. Well, I have these obligations and I, but your obligation is to yourself and something will be there.
I mean, this is a wide and a varied world and it's filled with ongoing and endless opportunities for us to make our way in that world. And if a situation isn't right from a relationship to a job or a religious belief, I mean, I have a lot of examples too that I deal with where people have changed political parties or religious beliefs that they have to feel.
We have to feel that we have the freedom to go in another direction, to stop and change. again, it's just too grim otherwise. And again, I just never liked it when I hear people say, well, I would do this or that except for my family. And it's like, no, no, your family is the reason that you do make another decision because you do have those responsibilities.
And you know that you being a whole person, you know, on your way, to a new way of living and a brighter frame of mind, that is your responsibility. So, I mean, I kind of see it from the other way around. And I do think of it as a very practical strategy.
There is that, you can do that if you wish. But again, I think that's an individual decision. And by no means am I telling anybody what to do. I would never say that one thing is going to work out over all the others. Again, this is just a plea, a kind of an earnest, innocent plea to say, it's okay. If you're thinking of quitting something and you're hearing people say, don't do it.
And you're like me in graduate school, that terrible night when I decided I just couldn't make it another moment. I mean, I was 19 years old and I truly was at a, Was that a terrible point, kind of a psychological waterloo? I mean, I don't know what would have happened to me if I'd stayed. I had to get out of there. And we all know that feeling. Everybody knows that feeling.
Job, relationship, way of thinking. So sometimes it's a philosophy toward life when you realize, I just, I can't be that way anymore.
Very, very, very few people. ever deeply regretted something that they gave up on or quit and looked back on and said, oh, if I just hadn't done that, far, far more often was, I so wish I'd quit earlier. It was the wrong thing to do. I wasted 10 years of my life because I was afraid of... being involved in that particular thing, whatever it might have been, a job or a person or a political party.
So I do take your point, but there's something you said early on in your question when you said of how people feel about it. And that's ultimately what I'm getting at. It's how you feel about it. And it doesn't matter what I think or you think or any of these fancy neuroscientists who were kind enough to explain their work to me at great length.
It doesn't matter what any of them think or what anybody thinks really. It's how you feel and only you know. At the end of the day, it's that mind and heart and soul that I speak of. Because truly, I think our work and the way we spend our time is not just a matter of getting money or keeping a roof over our heads or even taking care of our families.
It's sort of our obligation as, you know, it's a soul deep obligation. It's what we do, how we spend our time. Do we feel as if we have used our gifts and talents to their fullest ability? And if you're in the wrong place and you're stuck in the wrong place, then the answer would be no.
But if you're able to change and able to quit things that aren't working and go to something that is working better, then the answer would be yes.
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