Julia Louis-Dreyfus

Yeah.

You adjust, but there's an adjustment, right?

Yeah.

Although I would say sort of the parallel might be that when you do get it working—

it's not really a comparison, but when you do get it working on a series or a movie and you know you've got something like lightning in a bottle, that's lightning in a bottle.

To capture that again doesn't mean you're not going to work again, but to capture a certain kind of magic is magic.

Yeah, I'm sure.

So I want to just really talk about your wonderful friend, Bonnie, and

Tell me about Bonnie.

And you guys have been friends for how long?

48 years.

Oh, God, that's so nice.

Long time, yeah.

Long time.

And how long did it take you to talk her into doing the Cuba swim with you?

Was that a hard sell?

And so what's your connection?

How does it feel different now than when, I mean, it's now, however, it's been whatever, 13 years since that, you know, she's not your coach necessarily, but she's your close friend.

How does that connection work between you now?

God, how lucky are you to have that relationship?